To my understanding you can answer septic shock present

Severe sepsis criteria is met and lactate >4 is present. Your septic shock time 
zero will be the result time of the initial LA.
Even if there was no documentation of septic shock, criteria for septic shock 
is present.

Any other comments to clarify this?

Thank you and have a great day!

Charlene Eilleene B. Noblejas RN, BSN
  Sepsis Program Coordinator
  Mercy Hospital and Medical Center
  Chicago, IL
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From: PAMELA J. ANDERSON
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:36 AM
To: HQTH DISGROUP SEPSIS COORDINATORS DG U; 
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Subject: Severe sepsis with inital lactate <4, repeat >4

Good Morning! Just looking for some verification of what I'm thinking-

Based on what I see in the v5.0b specs, Septic Shock present, using the 
criteria of severe sepsis present + lactate >=4 is based on the INITIAL lactate 
done related to the time of presentation for severe sepsis, so that if the 
repeat lactate done 3 hours later is now >4, I would answer "No" to the 
question of whether shock was present since it was not the initial lactate. The 
patient did receive 30cc/kg, did not have persistent hypotension, and there was 
no documentation of septic shock in the record.

Any thoughts? Thanks!
Pam

Pamela Anderson, BSN, RN
Clinical Data Abstractor
Sepsis Coordinator
Loyola University Health System
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