The coders cannot infer and give a diagnosis that is not in the pt's record. 
What they CAN do and WILL do is query the provider for this diagnosis based on 
the guidelines that they follow. If the provider then gives that diagnosis on 
the query, the pt will get coded as such.

You all probably know this , but - For the Core Measure, if a diagnosis is made 
post dc, which most of these queries are, we are not to abstract theses pt's. 
Same for if the only documentation of severe sepsis or septic shock is in the 
dc summary- we do not abstract.

If you all did not know- coders guidelines are not the same as we follow per 
the SSC and the 3 and 6 hour time frames. These queries can be tricky and 
deceiving and we MUST be diligent in our education, communication and 
assistance to providers about queries. Also, in getting invalid queries 
overturned so that our own facility level data is accurate, as well as 
nationwide data that many decisions about sepsis can be based upon.

Amy Crowley
Sepsis Coordinator
Medical City Denton
3535 South I-35E
Denton, Texas 76210
P: 940-384-3254
C: 214-801-2950
DentonRegional.com

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From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Gibbs, Katie
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 10:03 AM
To: Chambless Deborah <[email protected]>; 
[email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Sepsis Groups] question

Correct, our coders do this.  I believe they can also code septic shock if 
hypotension.

From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 9:14 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Sepsis Groups] question

Hello group,

I am being told by our quality department that if a patient is documented with 
severe sepsis and has a lactic acid greater than 4 that it is automatically 
coded as septic shock even though it's not documented. Is this true?

Thanks,
Debbie Chambless
Sepsis Coordinator
Osceola Regional Medical Center
Kissimmee, Fl 34371
407-518-3949
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