As a Clinical Nurse Specialist and part of our multidisciplinary sepsis team, I 
review all of the opportunities for improvement from our CMS data abstractors.  
I am finding a repeating theme and wanted to know if others have seen this 
also.  Once a patient receives fluid for hypotension, we are not meeting the 
CMS bundle due to no vasopressors for shock.  What I am observing is the 
abstractors are looking at the first 2 MAPs after fluids have been infused and 
requiring a vasopressor to be given if MAP is not >65.  For example, fluids 
complete at 1300 in less than 45 minutes from hypotension and the first 2 MAPS 
recorded at 1315 and 1320 are <65 even though subsequent MAPs are consistently 
>65. On-going assessments of perfusion are being made by our providers and 
bedside clinicians during this time. Since CMS gives a 6 hour window for 
vasopressors for initial septic shock, is there any consideration for examining 
this time window for vasopressor support?  We give our initial fluid 
resuscitation for most patients in less than one hour.  I am interested to know 
other viewpoints on this issue.

Jeanie Bollinger MSN,RN, ACCNS-AG, CCRN
Clinical Nurse Specialist
Acute Medicine
Mission Health
509 Biltmore Avenue
Asheville, NC 28801

Office: 828-213-7171
Cell: 828-400-1194

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