The May issue of CCM contains an article by Seymour and colleagues exploring the delays from first medical contact to administration of antibiotics for sepsis. Both total medical contact and ED delay in abx administration are associated with in-hospital mortality in community acquired sepsis. Although pre-hospital delay was not independently associated with mortality, the authors do comment that total medical contact delay could be reduced if EMS administered prehospital antibiotics to high risk septic patients. (rather than delay upon arrival to the ED). Our local EMS agencies are exploring including this in their protocols as we are in a rural area of Western NC and some of our transports can be >1 hr due to mountainous terrain. I am sure there will be more to come on early recognition and not delaying antibiotics.
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Re: [External] Sepsisgroups Digest, Vol 242, Issue 3 (Sandy Tobar) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 23:57:03 +0000 From: "Umberger, Reba A" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Sepsisgroups Digest, Vol 242, Issue 1 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Ann, Kumar has shown that every hour of delay in appropriate antibiotics increases mortality. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19696123/ Hope this helps! 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Re: EMS pre-hospital treatment for sepsis (Sprague, Amy L.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 13:09:43 +0000 From: "Sprague, Amy L." <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: "Helsley, Anne" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] EMS pre-hospital treatment for sepsis Message-ID: <42f2a2d2f9ec8940bd465762c5e75dee201f5...@vapnsmsgd51s11.vha.med.va.gov<mailto:42f2a2d2f9ec8940bd465762c5e75dee201f5...@vapnsmsgd51s11.vha.med.va.gov>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anne, Will you please share with me any information you receive on this? Thank you, Amy Amy L. Sprague DNP, RN, ACNS-BC, CCRN Patient Safety Manager Richard L. Roudebush VA Medical Center 1481 West 10th Street Indianapolis, IN 46202 Office 317-988-3547 "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." Martin Luther King, Jr. From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Helsley, Anne Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 3:29 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Sepsis Groups] EMS pre-hospital treatment for sepsis A local EMS is planning a protocol to screen for Severe Sepsis in the field pre-hospital. Based upon the screening results (which do not include a lactate), they will be administering crystalloid fluids, drawing blood cultures and giving a broad spectrum antibiotic. While I can find literature to support the fluid administration, I have been unable to find any support for the antibiotic administration. Are you familiar with this practice, is it happening in your area, or are you familiar with any literature to support/not-support. Thank you in advance. 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Especially if there is a delay in implementation beyond 4 hours of the identification of sepsis Sandy Tobar RN, BSN, MSBA Director, Clinical Transformation Sepsis, HAI & Patient Safety Trinity Health [email protected] W 734-343-1496 20555 Victor Parkway Livonia, MI 48152 trinity-health.org | Facebook | Twitter | LinkedIn -----Original Message----- From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 6:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [External] Sepsisgroups Digest, Vol 242, Issue 3 Send Sepsisgroups mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.sepsisgroups.org/listinfo.cgi/sepsisgroups-sepsisgroups.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Sepsisgroups digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Sepsis Clinical Pathways and nursing care plans (Engleman, Anne) 2. Re: Septic shock question (Belfi, Karen) 3. Re: Initial lactate vs repeat lactate result (Cynthia Wells) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 18:55:44 +0000 From: "Engleman, Anne" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Sepsis Clinical Pathways and nursing care plans Message-ID: <09d1158b26ef3d428ec4b6f30faf73847460a...@tenhdcthmb10-04.tenethealth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello everyone, I am wondering if anyone has developed clinical pathways or nursing care plans for sepsis patients and would be willing to share what they have. In addition, to share if they are effective with inpatient sepsis cases and compliance with the CMS metrics. I appreciate any and all feedback. Our Sepsis Committee members would like to explore this as an option in our facility. 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URL: <http://lists.sepsisgroups.org/pipermail/sepsisgroups-sepsisgroups.org/attachments/20170406/6b949107/attachment-0001.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 06:37:03 -0400 From: "Belfi, Karen" <[email protected]> To: "Gibbs, Katie" <[email protected]>, "'Mills, Mary'" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Septic shock question Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In the current specification manual (Version 5.2a), it states: Crystalloid fluid volumes ordered that are within 10% lower than the actual volume calculated by weight are acceptable. So if a patient needs 2200, they can get as little as 1980. (10% of 2200 is 220; 2200 -220 is 1980). -----Original Message----- From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gibbs, Katie Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:19 PM To: 'Mills, Mary'; [email protected] Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Sepsis Groups] Septic shock question Mary, Can you clarify the 10%. And where to find that in the spec manual? Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mills, Mary Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 5:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Septic shock question For CMS , you have to have severe sepsis before you have septic shock. When you say no source identified, are you saying that there is no documentation of a suspected infection within the 6 hr window criteria? If that is the case, then you can't meet all the criteria components for severe sepsis. Is there a reason the white count was so low documented in the note (recent chemo, etc)? If there is and the provider has documented it as such, you can't use that white count as your 2nd SIRS. In terms of just good patient care and reality, yes, this pt clinically is in septic shock. Per the most recent specs manual, a decrease of 10% of the 30mL/kg of crystalloids is acceptable, but that would be 1978.56. Not enough I hope this help :-) Sepsis, she is a nasty little bugger :-) Mary Mills RN, BSN, CPHQ, CPPS Centegra Health System ________________________________________ From: Sepsisgroups [[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 2:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Sepsisgroups Digest, Vol 239, Issue 1 Send Sepsisgroups mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.sepsisgroups.org_listinfo.cgi_sepsisgroups-2Dsepsisgroups.org&d=DwICAg&c=qqcbk_QeabW4Z7GBhIMNtn_B7aQjktEuWNmUvrzri9o&r=9XT3K_nIvIIF-7Bh2TiB0g&m=FXqwy-DHLddNT3CTdViX75Bd_MMGSCRinSMCq2AUalc&s=9xfcZwmWnIfVa-kgQ98natbkaoxEpp6Rsn5IJpE2iUs&e= or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Sepsisgroups digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Septic shock question (Davis, Diana) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:58:40 +0000 From: "Davis, Diana" <[email protected]> To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Septic shock question Message-ID: <bn6pr13mb0947c73172d6a1fa8e0a6bc8a2...@bn6pr13mb0947.namprd13.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Septic shock To everyone: Hoping to get some clarification re: potential septic shock pt. 1207- B/P- 84/57 P- 135. Lactate at 1430- 4.8- lactate at 1810- 4.3 WBC- 0.1 at 1621 Pt. weight- 73.28 Kg- pt received 1500cc NS - will fallout for this No source identified Will this patient meet septic shock due to lactate level? We cannot come to conclusion 100%- so looking for help from everyone. I say yes. Thank you. 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