We obtain an initial lactate on all patients who are suspected and screen for 
risk of severe sepsis. We felt that if initial blood draws are being done with 
placement of saline lock access we go ahead and draw blood cultures and lactate 
at that time since we will drawing for CBC and CMP most likely. Our practice is 
to not miss these tests and to try to save patient as many additional sticks as 
possible. We have been drawing blood cultures this way for quite a while. We 
just added the initial lactate as part of any and all sepsis workup with 
screening. I heard a lot about costly  tests but doing a lactate in our 
facility is reasonably cheap according to the lab director.
From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:sepsisgroups-boun...@lists.sepsisgroups.org] On 
Behalf Of Rutherford, Richard
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 4:54 PM
To: sepsisgroups@lists.sepsisgroups.org
Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Automated Lactate Orders


Hello All,



We are having a debate in our organization about whether automatic lactate 
orders violate nursing standard of practice.  Currently if a patient in ED or 
on floor screens in for sepsis, the nurse follows hospital protocol and orders 
a lactate which is then routed to the attending physician for cosignature 
(after drawn).   We also have an automated order to repeat lactate at 4 hours 
for admitted patients with an initial lactate>2.    I believe our initial 
lactate order in ER is covered by Standardized Nursing Procedures.  We are 
having more debate around the initial lactate ordered on inpatients and the 
automated second lactate on all patients with lactate>2 without a prior 
physician order.



I am interested in knowing if other hospitals use our approach, and if so is 
nursing leadership feeling comfortable that nursing standards of practice are 
not being violated.



Thanks,



Rick Rutherford


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