To clarify, does an admission assessment count if it is within 6 hours of the fluid or does the provider need to be specific and say "reperfusion exam"?
Jeanie Bollinger MSN,RN, ACCNS-AG, CCRN-K Clinical Nurse Specialist Acute Medicine Mission Health 509 Biltmore Avenue Asheville, NC 28801 Office: 828-213-7171 Cell: 828-400-1194 -----Original Message----- From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 2:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [EXTERNAL] Sepsisgroups Digest, Vol 287, Issue 8 Send Sepsisgroups mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.sepsisgroups.org/listinfo.cgi/sepsisgroups-sepsisgroups.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Sepsisgroups digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [**External**] Re: Focused exam (Townsend, Sean, M.D.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 23:23:55 +0000 From: "Townsend, Sean, M.D." <[email protected]> To: "DHILLON, ROOPINDER" <[email protected]>, "'Conaway, Pamela'" <[email protected]>, Fiona Winterbottom <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] [**External**] Re: Focused exam Message-ID: <blupr11mb0097cdef2eff3cf6f4d1a147b6...@blupr11mb0097.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This is not correct that "the focused exam is still there." Instead there is a new data element "repeat volume status and tissue perfusion assessment performed." You may write nothing at all about an "exam" and pass. In particular, you may right, "tissue perfusion reassessed" or "volume status reassessed" and pass. There's no preference on how you reassess the patient and no declaration of the means is required. That said, if for some reason you like the exam, you may also say "sepsis focused exam completed." Essentially any documentation of a reassessment is sufficient. That was the design intention. Sean From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DHILLON, ROOPINDER Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 10:55 AM To: 'Conaway, Pamela' <[email protected]>; Fiona Winterbottom <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: [**External**] Re: [Sepsis Groups] Focused exam WARNING: This email originated outside of the Sutter Health email system! DO NOT CLICK links if the sender is unknown and never provide your User ID or Password. The focused exam is still there in July 2018 Specs Manual. They have just changed the name to Data Element Name: "Repeat Volume Status and Tissue Perfusion Assessment Performed" -----Original Message----- From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Conaway, Pamela Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 7:32 AM To: Fiona Winterbottom; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Focused exam The focused exam will not be necessary beginning with July 2018 discharges. This information can be found on Quality Net in the July 2018 inpatient quality reporting specifications. -----Original Message----- From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fiona Winterbottom Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 2:12 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Focused exam Good Afternoon, I was recently at a large conference where the audience was told that the focused exam was no longer necessary. Could someone clarify this with supporting data of where this can be found? 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OB patients ([email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 18:21:54 +0000 From: Pamela Green <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: "Duane, Molly" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: Alesha Collins <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, "Britni N. Fannin" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Steven May <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Question re: documentation of attestation that focused exam was completed Message-ID: <cb8b1d4c6616c649be06e4604857ee8605567...@hmhexchange.howardmemorial.com<mailto:cb8b1d4c6616c649be06e4604857ee8605567...@hmhexchange.howardmemorial.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Good afternoon everyone, We are having a difficult time getting the appropriate documentation to meet the bundle compliance even though everything is done correctly! Use of our Sepsis Screening and Evaluation Documentation tool is hit and missed although I can see by the labs and treatment protocol that they are doing it. On the IP side it is the issue with getting them to document to the Sepsis Shift Screen and Focus reassessment. With the physicians if they are here when patient is admitted to the floor they usually do an admit note that includes a focused reassessment so we will catch those. If it is after hours we are hoping to hold the ER physicians accountable to documenting a focused reassessment prior to moving patient to PCU or ICU. I would be open to suggestions for better documentation compliance also. Pam Pam From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Duane, Molly Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 11:18 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Question re: documentation of attestation that focused exam was completed Hello All, I was wondering if your physicians were using the attestation statement instead of documenting the specific focused exam components. If so, how is that going? How did you implement this? We had a miss this month: even though the physician documented in his note the specific amount of fluid that was given, followed with "after these interventions the patient was reassessed", we missed because the attestation did not have a specific time included. The time the note was opened/started was used. This was an ED note, started at the beginning of the pt's visit, so that was prior to fluids being given. It is frustrating to see that the correct care is being given, yet we are missing on documentation technicalities. Does anyone have suggestions? Thanks, Molly Molly Duane RN, BSN, CCRN Sepsis Program Coordinator Detroit Receiving Hospital Harper-Hutzel Hospital Mobile: 248-709-6218 DRH: 313-966-8087 HUH: 313-745-4340 Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3cmailto:[email protected]>> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the message (including any attachments) and notify the originator that you received the message in error. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of Tenet Healthcare Corporation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We requested for the physicians to add a date and time of their re-assessments. This has surprisingly worked for us since we were able to show failures due to the technicalities. Linda G. Pender RRT-NPS Sepsis Coordinator Patient Care Services Administration Navicent Health phone: 478-633-6806 pager: 4444 KNOW Sepsis: Inside & Out Confidential Quality Improvement: Not for Disclosure Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> -----Original Message----- From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 4:07 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Sepsisgroups Digest, Vol 284, Issue 3 [ W A R N I N G ] This email originated outside of Navicent Health. Do not click on links or attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. 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Question re: documentation of attestation that focused exam was completed (Duane, Molly) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 12:17:56 -0400 From: "Duane, Molly" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Question re: documentation of attestation that focused exam was completed Message-ID: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello All, I was wondering if your physicians were using the attestation statement instead of documenting the specific focused exam components. If so, how is that going? How did you implement this? We had a miss this month: even though the physician documented in his note the specific amount of fluid that was given, followed with "after these interventions the patient was reassessed", we missed because the attestation did not have a specific time included. The time the note was opened/started was used. This was an ED note, started at the beginning of the pt's visit, so that was prior to fluids being given. It is frustrating to see that the correct care is being given, yet we are missing on documentation technicalities. Does anyone have suggestions? 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