On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 11:17:26AM -0800, Greg Stein wrote:
> I can definitely do it, but Aaron's being a butthead with a -1 saying it
> doesn't fit the Commons' goals :-)

Naw, that's not true, I'm not saying it doesn't fit the goals. I'm
saying we don't have goals to fit.

> Aaron: if you say "no", then what still
> needs to happen to define those goals?

That's easy:

1) APR needs to finalize its mission
2) Commmons needs to finalize its mission (or have something final enough
   to start accepting things like Serf)

> Help out here, so we can get
> component adoption going.

I'd like to see Commons create an "HTTP Utilities Component" and figure
out what that can mean.

> I believe Peter wants to start shifting a bunch of
> Avalon components, too. There may be some J-C guys, too.
> 
> But about serf specifically, I haven't seen votes on it from Ken, Jim, or
> Geir. We also don't seem to have a solid consensus on CVS organization or
> mailing lists.
> 
> Hmm. Maybe we should use Subversion? We could certainly not worry about
> directory organization in that case. We'd lose CVS history, though, since we
> can't blend multiple CVS repositories over time. i.e. we could use cvs2svn
> for an initial set, but future additions would lose history since we
> couldn't "blend" them into an existing repos.
> 
> 
> [grrr...]
> 
> I think it is time to stop dicking around, complete the Commons' mission
> statement, and start getting some work done.

+1

-aaron

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