Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Stefano Bagnara wrote:
Yes, this was intended.
By whom? I was also going to post something about it. We were talking
about something, and you just went ahead and broke the builds, which meant
that all of the automated builds, and anything else that any of potentially
1000s of other developers were doing suddenly ceased to work without any
notice.
When we agreed to remove ant it was obvious the build scripts should be
removed, too.
If you think we need them, readd it.
By whom?
Noel 22/5: "And I think it is time to upgrade our Ant to 1.6.5; or
perhaps remove Ant
from our repository, and ask developers to install it first."
Stefano 22/5: "I agree on ant removal: maven, ant, jre, java, javac
should not be in our repository. The less we keep in our repository the
less outdated things we have."
Bernd 22/5: +1
Serge 22/5: +1
I then opened a JIRA issue to track the change for a total number of at
least 10 messages on the mailing list.
"you just went ahead and broke the builds" doesn't belong to this
thread, imho.
I think that any developer using Java should know how to use ant, or
otherwise it should be better to not let him build James. James is an
SMTP server and if unexperienced people make changes to it and put it in
deploy it is no good.
Btw, I think I have not to explain anything about this.
Myabe you are too busy to follow the list, because 10 messages on the
mailing list and a JIRA issue seems to me enought to understand
something is happening.
If I can't move this way I think I should stop working on the trunk and
maybe I should start working on a branch or only on my own James version.
We can't take weeks and dozen of messages for each single commit.
We removed ant from our repository/distribution.
Without posting instructions to people on what they need to do to be able to
build again. Now you and I may know that you just need to install Ant,
modify the path, rewrite all of one's existing scripts and cron jobs, etc.,
but not everyone does.
If you have ant installed and correctly configured you don't
need the 2 scripts.
Well, actually, the scripts were setting up the environment for building
JAMES.
The wrong environment. Mostly unneeded jars and the path for ant that
was no more there.
Stefano
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