Noel J. Bergman schrieb: > Norman, > > >> Noel J. Bergman schrieb: >> >>> -1 >>> >>> The handling of this condition as temporary was very intentional, and >>> in no way accidental. This is a not uncommon problem. The DNS can be >>> wrong, and later corrected. The problem is ascertaining whether a >>> domain is non-existent for real (there is no registration record) or >>> because of a temporary DNS configuration error. >>> >>> Consider the debate within the SPF council regarding whether or not >>> NXDOMAIN was to be treated as a PermError or TempFail. >>> > > >> This was not the final solution. See revision 478589 >> > > I am not happy with the change. As I read it, r478589 is a bit better only > if the local DNS server is down. That's only one of several DNS related > issues that can result in failure. > > Consider > http://www.mhonarc.org/archive/html/spf-discuss/2005-05/msg00327.html. I do > consider the author of that particular e-mail to wrong because the intent of > the SMTP specification is to put a very high degree of reliability on the > delivery of mail. We bias decisions to ensure delivery. But the point is > for you to read the real-world examples of DNS failure given to him as > examples. And, FWIW, I have seen similar errors and had mail lost by qmail > that would not have been lost by JAMES. > > I am OK with optional filters for rejecting mail in-protocol if the MAIL FROM > or even REPLY-TO domains are invalid (even temporarily), but I am *not* OK > with hardcoding the change you are making to bounce mail because there is a > transient DNS glitch on the delivery side. > > Do you understand now? > > --- Noel > >
Hi Noel, i not agree with you. First of all if the nameserver is not configured correctly etc we should not try to "take care" and give the admin a chance to correct it He should get sure what he do before change the config.. I think most admins and users want to get the error as soon as possible. Let me give you an example why the old behavoir is bad: Think about you have a costumer where you installed james. He sended an email with an importent text out and not notice that he has a misstyping in the domainname. The domain he used as recipient domain does not exists. But he not get the bounce back till the configured retry count was reached.. (about 5 days). Because of that he not notice that he had a misstyping in the domainname, so he lost a job which whould hat brought him 1 000 0000 Dollars. How you whould explain him this ? This is not acceptable for me.. If we have an other DNS error then a temporary connection problem we should bounce as soon as possible. Don't get me wrong.. im not aggressiv.. I only try to explain you why i think the old behavoir is really bad! bye Norman --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]