On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Boris Burtin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, "we" == Zimbra.  :-)  We've been using jSieve on the back end for about 
> 3-4 years now.  When a user creates mail filters, the web client code sends a 
> SOAP request to the server.  The server processes the request, generates the 
> appropriate Sieve script, and saves it in the user's account settings.  When 
> a message comes in, jSieve generates the filter actions that will be 
> performed on the incoming message.
>
> When the user wants to modify his filters, we walk the jSieve parse tree to 
> generate the SOAP response.  So we have SOAP->Sieve script code and jSieve 
> tree->SOAP code.  The only thing we don't have is jSieve tree->Sieve script, 
> but I was able to use the other two to do a swift hack.

cool

just FYI there's currently a standardisation effort underway for xml
representation of sieve scripts
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-freed-sieve-in-xml-01.txt

1 maybe you'd be in a position to provide useful feedback
2 a suitable visitor might be useful for standard or custom
transformation to xml

> The only remaining case is the one I'm dealing with now.  If a user moves or 
> renames a folder, I want to update all the scripts that reference that 
> folder.  So I parse the script, walk the tree, and modify the nodes in-place. 
>  After I modify the nodes, I want to save the updated script in the user's 
> account settings.  This requires serializing the parse tree into a String.
>
> I've attached a copy of the SOAP API planned for ZCS 6.0, for anyone that's 
> interested.

ATM AIUI there is a significant standards effort  for sieve including
management protocols. i'm a critic of the management approach taken
(yet another 7BIT ASCII line based email protocol with all the
problems associated. many big *nix vendors favour this approach but i
think that there's room for more modern approaches such as SOAP or a
RESTful HTTP. i'd be interesting in helping out if you're interested
in working towards standardisation.

- robert

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