Hi Eric, I was able to reproduce your problem and just checked in the fix. Please svn up and try again..
Thx for your feedback. Bye, Norman 2010/3/29 Norman Maurer <nor...@apache.org>: > Hi Eric, > > I just tried to acces an empty inbox via thunderbird (pop3) here. It > worked without any probs. > > Im using windows 7 and thunderbird 3.0.3 > > Bye, > Norman > > > 2010/3/28 Norman Maurer <nor...@apache.org>: >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Norman Maurer <nor...@apache.org> >> Date: 2010/3/28 >> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Replace MailRepository with Mailbox / >> MailboxManager for POP3Server ... >> To: Eric Charles <eric.char...@u-mangate.com> >> >> >> Hi Eric, >> >> could you maybe use wireshark or something similar to log what >> thunderbird tries todo exactly.. ? >> >> Thx, >> Norman >> >> >> 2010/3/28 Eric Charles <eric.char...@u-mangate.com>: >>> Hi Norman, >>> >>> I just made the following tests: >>> >>> - Fresh checkout from trunk and mvn package (some new dependencies were >>> downloaded such as jsieve, mailet-sdk,...) => same problem on a local >>> deployment with thunderbird : it hangs when mailbox is empty. >>> >>> - I after defined my production account on evolution >>> (http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution) : I didn't have the problem >>> anymore, but really strange, evolution downloaded some messages from >>> yesterday. Those messages had been deleted from my inbox via thunderbird, >>> but was retrieved via evolution... >>> >>> - I tested with evolution the local deployment I just made : I can read the >>> inbox even if empty. >>> >>> The problem seems to reside on the thunderbird/james conversation when inbox >>> is empty. >>> >>> Tks, >>> Eric >>> >>> >>> On 03/27/2010 10:08 PM, Norman Maurer wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Eric, >>>> >>>> I just tested pop3 with imail and no messages in inbox and everything >>>> "just works". Will try to test it with thunderbird later.. >>>> >>>> Bye, >>>> Norman >>>> >>>> >>>> 2010/3/27 Norman Maurer<nor...@apache.org>: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Eric, >>>>> >>>>> I will try to find out whats wrong with the pop3 inbox stuff. If you >>>>> find out anything else please feel free to just report it.. >>>>> >>>>> Thx, >>>>> Norman >>>>> >>>>> 2010/3/27 Eric Charles<eric.char...@u-mangate.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Norman, >>>>>> >>>>>> Many tks for your quick answer. >>>>>> >>>>>> I had defined in my Thunderbird 3.0.3 client (on linux) the pop3 account >>>>>> as >>>>>> the default one. >>>>>> When launching thunderbird, the connection was succefully done "Host >>>>>> contacted, sending login information", saying after 1 second >>>>>> "Determining >>>>>> which messages to index" (never saw that message before...), hanging >>>>>> there a >>>>>> few minutes, and finally saying "connection to server ... timed out". >>>>>> After >>>>>> that, Imap account behaved also such a way... >>>>>> I also tried with latest Thundrebird 3.0.3: same result... >>>>>> >>>>>> I have now defined the imap account as the default one, and it's working >>>>>> fine even without any mail in the inbox. >>>>>> However, for the pop3 account, I still have the same behaviour. Anyway, >>>>>> I >>>>>> have a temporary workaround right now. >>>>>> I will try to debug it but it may take some time to jump into the new >>>>>> architecture (I hacked james 3 years ago, but now we have some new great >>>>>> stuff such as jpa, activemq, jackrabbit,...). >>>>>> >>>>>> Regarding the OOM, I saw some days ago the JAMES-981 regarding the >>>>>> ConsumerTemplate. >>>>>> However, the problem was still present even after you commited JAMES-981 >>>>>> into trunk, so I don't think the problem was coming from that. >>>>>> I tried to analyse the 2GB heap dump with eclipse memory analyser, but >>>>>> it >>>>>> failed (too much swapping, my RAM is only 1GB). >>>>>> Currently, the process memory with the new trunk version I deployed >>>>>> today >>>>>> seems stable. >>>>>> I will keep posted if I still have the issue, or if finally, the memory >>>>>> remains stable. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tks a lot and keep up the excellent work, >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Norman Maurer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Eric, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thx for the feedback . Does this happens with pop3 or imap ? Or with >>>>>>> both? What client you use? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> About the OOM Exception, chances are good that this is fixed now. I >>>>>>> did something bad with ConsumerTemplate in RemoteDelivery nailet, >>>>>>> which could lead to such problems. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bye >>>>>>> Norman >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2010/3/27, Eric Charles<eric.char...@u-mangate.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Great Norman, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just upgraded to the current trunk to benefit from : >>>>>>>> - JAMES-983: common POP3/IMAP MailRepository. >>>>>>>> - JAMES-984: activemq 5.3.1 hoping it will resolve some OutOfMemory >>>>>>>> exceptions I had (*) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I deployed and now (configured with enableVirtualHosting=true and >>>>>>>> JDBCDomainList), I've got the following: >>>>>>>> - When my mailbox contains at least one mail, No problem: I can read >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> without any problem. >>>>>>>> - When my mailbox is empty, my mail client simply waits and finally >>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>> me a timeout (closing my client and launching it again with mails in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> inbox, everything is fine again). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can anybody else reproduce it? >>>>>>>> Is there additional specific configuration I have to apply ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tks a lot, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (*) Just for information, about the OutOfMemory I had with activemq >>>>>>>> 3.5.0: >>>>>>>> - Testing different configurations from >>>>>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/javalangoutofmemory.html didn't help. >>>>>>>> - Stressing a local deployment with apache-sever-postage, server was >>>>>>>> holding the pressure during hours, however, memory was slightly but >>>>>>>> constantly growing. >>>>>>>> - I have a heap dump to be analyzed (still todo) >>>>>>>> - Reading 6 memory leak bugs resolved in activemq 3.5.1. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (https://issues.apache.org/activemq/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10520&styleName=Html&version=12183), >>>>>>>> I decided to try to migrate to activemq 5.3.1, and by chance, Norman >>>>>>>> checked it in two days ago. I still have to wait a few days to see if >>>>>>>> the OutOfMemory problem is resolved. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/23/-28158 08:59 PM, Norman Maurer wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ok it seems like this works for everyone so far.. I will commit it >>>>>>>>> this weekend .. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks again for all the feedback / questions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bye, >>>>>>>>> Norman >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2010/3/26 Stefano Bagnara<apa...@bago.org>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2010/3/24 Norman Maurer<nor...@apache.org>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I want to propose some really heavy change in current JAMES trunk, >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> so next version. As all of you knows we are supporting IMAP in >>>>>>>>>>> current >>>>>>>>>>> development version, which ships with its own mail store backend >>>>>>>>>>> called MailboxManager / Mailbox. For POP3 we use MailRepository as >>>>>>>>>>> backend. >>>>>>>>>>> I think this is a no go for a number of reasons, but the major one >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> that we should be able to switch between IMAP and POP3 without the >>>>>>>>>>> need to migrate mails. So I rewrote the POP3Server to re-use the >>>>>>>>>>> MailboxManager / Mailbox stuff which is used by IMAP. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think this is a good think. I also hope MailboxManager/Mailbox API >>>>>>>>>> can be improved and simplified, but using a single API is the only >>>>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>>>> to go. Once we use only one we'll better understand how to improve >>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So if a user login via POP3 he will just see the folder called >>>>>>>>>>> INBOX >>>>>>>>>>> and nothing else. With IMAP he will see all folders. Thats exactly >>>>>>>>>>> what dovecot and courier does ( both heavy used unix imap/pop3 >>>>>>>>>>> servers). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A good extension would be to have a "login pattern" to read custom >>>>>>>>>> folders.. >>>>>>>>>> e.g: I login as "username#FOLDER" with username password and this >>>>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>>>> I get access to FOLDER instead of INBOX. >>>>>>>>>> The same could be applied to the delete behaviour (something like >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> "recent:" prefix hack in gmail). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Another advance is that we elimate one more dependency on storing >>>>>>>>>>> mails via javamail, which is not the way to go for the future ... >>>>>>>>>>> On the downside we will break backward-compatibility with every >>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>> release we did before. So we will need to write a "migration" tool, >>>>>>>>>>> but this should not be to hard. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> IMO at this point we should plainly ignore backward compatibility. >>>>>>>>>> AFTER we'll have a working release we'll define a migration path >>>>>>>>>> (with >>>>>>>>>> the help of users wanting to upgrade). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Because the change is so heavy, I dedicited to attach it to JIRA >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> review and not commit it directly. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can find it here: >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JAMES-983 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So what do you think ? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Stefano >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
