2011/6/12 Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com>: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin > <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Norman Maurer >> <norman.mau...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> Hi Robert, > > Hi Norman > >>> I still don't get your point and I really disagree about "commenting >>> out". >> >> I was worry that anyone here in England building James has a chance of >> ending up in goal... > > I believe that permissive public licenses for JSW were available in > the past but I find that can't obtain one now. This means I'm breaking > the copyright law here in the UK.
What does this means? I obtained the package from them some year ago. It was under the MIT license and I can now redistribute it under the same licensing. Anyone can do this. And in fact also maven.org is redistributing it under the same MIT license: http://search.maven.org/remotecontent?filepath=tanukisoft/wrapper-delta-pack/3.2.3/wrapper-delta-pack-3.2.3.tar.gz I really must be missing or England must have some weird law (you really have a law that say that the copyright holder can change the content of the licenses granted in past at any time?). Also, the tar.gz doesn't say anywhere you have to look at their website. I can't believe that english law says that a "pointer" including a link to a license (the url in the pom file) is more authoritative than the license file included in the artifact itself (add to this that it is easy to find proofs all over the internet that the license page on tanuki website changed since that pom has been created). The license grant the permission to... --- to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sub-license --- So either you think that the package may have been altered by someone else or I don't get your concerns. Who cares if tanuki software changed their business model and now do something else? What if, in future, apache foundation will close down and I acquire the apache.org domain and start selling apache software? Will this mean that no english people will be able to use older apache artifacts under the old ALv2 license anymore? The license had no "time limit" in the text and tanuki can't do anything today to make the old packages to expire. The fact that their website doesn't anymore give informations about the "good stuff" doesn't change anything: their license didn't say "our website will change this license rules at any time, please check monthly to make sure you comply with the updated rules". (for the record, we are already distributing tanuki wrapper 3.2.0 with our James Server 2.3.x releases) I appreciate Robert efforts in enforcing our licensing/copyright compliance (and I want to thank you, Robert, for this work you carefully do everytime since years: I learned a lot from you), but this time I'm not convinced of his "reasons". I still think we should ship the beta with the JSW wrapper as it was 2 days ago and I think it is very bad to release a worst product because of such (IMO invalid) reasons. But maybe I simply didn't understand the reasons, yet, but I hope that Robert simply didn't see that the tar.gz maven dowsnloads during the build has a doc/license.txt and it contains "category A" licensing terms and so we simply redistribute "category A" binaries as our binary dependencies. Stefano --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
