I agree with stefano..... I really cant understand what all the
trouble is about :(

bye
norman

Am Montag, 13. Juni 2011 schrieb Stefano Bagnara <apa...@bago.org>:
> 2011/6/13 Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com>:
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Stefano Bagnara <apa...@bago.org> wrote:
>>> 2011/6/12 Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com>:
>>>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
>>>> <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Norman Maurer
>>>>> <norman.mau...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>
>>>> Hi Norman
>>>>
>>>>>> I still don't get your point and I really disagree about "commenting
>>>>>> out".
>>>>>
>>>>> I was worry that anyone here in England building James has a chance of
>>>>> ending up in goal...
>>>>
>>>> I believe that permissive public licenses for JSW were available in
>>>> the past but I find that can't obtain one now. This means I'm breaking
>>>> the copyright law here in the UK.
>>>
>>> What does this means? I obtained the package from them some year ago.
>>> It was under the MIT license and I can now redistribute it under the
>>> same licensing.
>>
>> Yes, you can :-)
>
> :-)
>
>>> Anyone can do this.
>>
>> No - only people who were issued with the old public license can
>>
>>> And in fact also maven.org is redistributing it
>>> under the same MIT license:
>>> http://search.maven.org/remotecontent?filepath=tanukisoft/wrapper-delta-pack/3.2.3/wrapper-delta-pack-3.2.3.tar.gz
>>
>> I reviewed the jar and pom. Maven central were never issued with the
>> software under a public license, only under a promise that public
>> license could be obtained. It's a systematic flaw...
>
> IMO you simply reviewed the wrong artifacts. The jar and the pom are
> not downloaded by our build process. Our build process downloads the
> tar.gz artifact I linked previously.
>
> Did you download and review it? The tar.gz is a self contained package
> and INCLUDES the license (doc/license.txt file in the package).
>
> That very package is the only package from which we "extract" the
> contents we then bundle in our binary.
> We don't bundle the pom, nor the jar and AFAIK they are not even
> touched/downloaded/looked-up during our build process.
>
> So, why should we care about the licensing of files we don't use?
>
> Is the english law so weird that doesn't allow the license to be
> included in the package but require a "pom" file in the same folder to
> say what the license is?
>
>> Anyone who has a public license could republish the artifact under
>> that public license. There would be no problems then using that
>> instance.
>
> So at least we have a way out as I can redistribute it, but I hope we
> don't even need this (I don't want to fight with maven central
> managers in order to have a second identical copy of the artifact
> published in their tree and I don't know where to publish it as apache
> doesn't want to publish third party software).
>
> Stefano
>
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