over here (US) they often talk about not having a relationship with the company although the legit companies i deal with all have opt in/out when you register. Of course over here we bungled our anti-spam law so badly that it encouraged more spam after passage.
I did run into one real company that I had a problem with. "Kripy Kreme" I never had one but I understand they are mostly south east US and are a deep fried doughnut thing. I got on their list (perhaps a prank by someone I know) and could not get off. They had an opt out but it didn't work. Went for about a year. I emailed them directly and was assured that I'd be off which I was until the next newsletter. Finally I complained to their ISP. That worked. Now I'm pretty sure that this is a legit company with no ill intentions. I think they were just incompetent or didn't care enough to make their system work. bill page -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 4:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: UN against spam > > wrong track. The definition of spam should be simple: > unsollicited bulk > > email, period. > > What do you define as solicited? Any email that is sent to a number of recipients where at least a number of the recipients did not give permission to sent that email to them. You could even narrow it down to email making commercial offerings. You're right in that the perfect definition of spam is a little hard to give. One persons spam might be another persons ham, but commercial unsollicited email is spam. It might even depend on the recipient: over here in the Netherlands commercial spam to private persons is not allowed, commercail spam to companies is still not prosecutable. -- Jeroen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
