> No, I see your big picture ... sadly you do not see mine.
> James is not idle - there is a tremendous amount of work going on.
> You need to understand this is not a question of letting in 
> active developers, but letting developers who actively 
> support James and share it's vision to contribute time and 
> effort to promote and propel James down it's path.

I asked a question some weeks ago on the server-dev about ESMTP and
ESMTP-DSN support. I'm planning to implement it and I asked information
about the status of the project and better way to proceed. No answers.

I posted a few (5) issue in the james jira: no comments, no assignments, no
priorities.

The only way I found is to create my own local repository and to work on my
own branch: I cannot rely on a project that will not incorporate bug
fixes/patches I submitted on the next version.

That's sad because I'm relying on james and I would really love to see some
more changes in the SVN and not only a few mailet in a year.

> James won't grow without players actively supporting James.
> My position is that writing code is a small part of what James needs.
> All code that we accept into James needs to be what James 
> needs (Break/Fix), what James is developing (new features), 
> and what James is moving into.

So someone should be at least able to accept/reject/classify jira issues.

> I believe that today's Open Source is no longer the free 
> willy-nilly that one was, but is now a more structured 
> project with deliverables and responsibilities, and because 
> of this, we need to exercise more restraint and actively 
> reject brilliant work if it does not fit into the James 
> Vision or ASF model.

For example the bug I found in the Fetchmail module of the 2.2.0 suggests me
that NO ONE is using the remote-address recognition (configured by default?)
because it currently reject all mail.

How much people rely on the current stable james? How many of them are java
developers?
When I see James-NG, James-HA (on sourceforge), I see that I'm starting with
a local branch of james I understand that current ASF model doesn't work for
james or current ASF members coordinating james did not understand the ASF
model.

And again:
> James is not idle - there is a tremendous amount of work going on.

If it is NOT IDLE can you provide more information on what it's going on and
when?
As a developer relying on james I'm really interested in this but the james
homepage only reports random quotes that will probably never happen.

Stefano


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