Guys, I have found something. If your sending email without a from name then it goes straight to spam in gmail. Add a from name and it comes through there. It is coming through as (Unknown Sender) for me so I'm still looking. Hope this gives some help.
Cheers, Carl. On 9/5/06, Santosh Puranshettiwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That was a useful information about Hotmail an Microsoft policy. But the problem is not only observed in Hotmail, but also in Yahoo mail. After some time, even Gmail starts classifying the mails into spam. Its no where a problem related to JAMES. This issue may not pertain to the agenda of this project too. But if we share our knowledge and expertise, its probable that it will be useful in future for others. Essentially, its a Spam classification problem. In spite of being a legitimate mail server, the spam filters at Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail(which probably is more strict) classify them as bad. If we know, or figure out, how they do it, we might have a solution. We may end it right here if you feel I am pushing it too much. No hard feelings. :) Santosh. Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Santosh Puranshettiwar wrote: > > >> Noel J. Bergman wrote: >> >>> Just checked with GMail, Yahoo! and Hotmail. Only Hotmail is marking >>> > mail > >>> as spam. And when I ask why, I am told that it is marked as spam only >>> because "Sender is not in your Allowed Senders list or your Contacts >>> > list." > >>> That's allegedly the default policy on Hotmail now, which would make >>> > most > >>> e-mail spam, and requires you to mark the sender as known. >>> > > >> I agree. JAMES couldn't be *it*. >> But quite a few of us are facing this problem, probably we >> should digg it and document the problem somewhere for future. >> > > And what do you want to document? > > I also sent e-mail direct from my Google Mail account to hotmail. Worked > fine. > > I then sent e-mail using my @apache.org address via the Apache servers, and > it was flagged by hotmail as spam. The MTA is qmail, not JAMES; and Apache > has proper SPF records, so my @apache.org address was coming from a > legitimate @apache.org relay. Amusingly enough, the MUA on my end, in all > cases except for GMail, was Microsoft Outlook. > > And one of the messages I sent from @apache.org didn't show up anywhere: no > e-mail, nor spam nor bounce to indicate a problem. I received a message > that it was being spooled for delivery, and then it vanished. > > Again: > > >>> Bottom line: it isn't JAMES. >>> > > What I found after some digging around on the Internet are claims that > Microsoft is "pushing their BondedSender like crazy", and that "if you want > [mail delivered to hotmail users] badly enough, then you will probably pay > to use their bonded sender program. Otherwise, you may be forced to > eliminate all hotmail users from your lists, or at least live with the fact > that most mail from you to hotmail is going to be blocked or dropped." > > See also: http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/04/20/email_aadeefedia_di/ > > "Microsoft says you should deploy its lightly used [and patent encumbered] > Sender-ID email authentication and/or pay for SenderScoreCertified > (previously known as "bondedsender")." > > Or: http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/08/email_aaccedjcjd_f/ > > "millions of Comcast subscribers have been unable to send email to MSN or > Hotmail." > > Or any number of other reports about Hotmail that 30 seconds in Google will > turn up for you. > > I agree that this is useful information, but again, what do you want to > document? I am trying to be nice about it, but from my perspective, these > problems amount to nothing more than what I expect from a Microsoft Internet > property. In my view, the only interesting thing from my testing is that > the e-mail from GMail worked, which leads to interesting speculation but > nothing particularly useful in terms of your problems delivery mail to > Hotmail users, other than to suggest that they switch from Hotmail to > another web mail provider, such as GMail. > > --- Noel > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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