Hey Jason,
glad to hear you got it working. I suggest you set authRequired to
"announce" as some clients don't auth correctly if it's required but not
announced in options after EHLO, as I recently discovered with JavaMail
API (for what ever reason). Strangely, as JavaMail is the base for most
android mail apps, it seems android uses a modified version as it always
auth correctly no matter if james is set to "true" or "announce". Or
maybe it was a bug with the testcode I used, don't know.
About google keeps classify your mails as spam: have a look at
https://mxtoolbox.com/ and https://tools.dnsstuff.com/ - these sites can
help to find issues and offer lots of test tools. They both offer
services for domain-name, hostname and IP. Also a look at "raw message"
in gmail shows wich spam-checks fails - wich in combine with mx-toolbox
and dns-stuff can help a lot to get issues fixed. If you want I can try
help you to resolve them, as I went through many myself as I set up my
own domain and mailserver back in 2015. Learned a lot since.
Matt
Am 28.06.2019 um 10:05 schrieb Jason Tjankilisan:
Hey Marth,
After some testing, making sure my server run correctly, I changed my smtpserver.xml
configuration file and it works. As you said, the <jmxName> tag was important
so i added the tag and rename it so it goes like this :
<smtpserver enabled="true">
<jmxName>smtpSend</jmxName>
<bind>0.0.0.0:465</bind>
<tls socketTLS="true" startTLS="false">
<keystore>file://conf/keystore</keystore>
<secret>pass</secret>
<provider>org.bouncycastle.jce.provider.BouncyCastleProvider</provider>
<algorithm>SunX509</algorithm>
</tls>
<connectiontimeout>360</connectiontimeout>
<!-- Set the maximum simultaneous incoming connections for this service
-->
<connectionLimit>0</connectionLimit>
<!-- Set the maximum simultaneous incoming connections per IP for this
service -->
<connectionLimitPerIP>0</connectionLimitPerIP>
<authRequired>true</authRequired>
<authorizedAddresses>127.0.0.0/8</authorizedAddresses>
<maxmessagesize>0</maxmessagesize>
<addressBracketsEnforcement>true</addressBracketsEnforcement>
<handlerchain>
<handler
class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.fastfail.ValidRcptHandler"/>
<handler class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.CoreCmdHandlerLoader"/>
</handlerchain>
</smtpserver>
Now my thunderbird can receive email from world and send message to other
(though still treated as spam in gmail, but maybe because still no DKIM and
SPF). Thank you so much for the help!
Sincerely, Jason
Sorry for any wrong word, and thank you for the help
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: cryptearth
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:52 PM
To: server-user@james.apache.org
Subject: Re: How to configure SMTP so thunderbird can send email /receiveemail
from outside world?
Hey Jason,
so I tested it on my backup (runs an older 3.1-snap version). This is my
smtpserver.xml (keystore passphrase changed):
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<smtpservers>
<smtpserver enabled="true">
<jmxName>smtpOne</jmxName>
<bind>0.0.0.0:25</bind>
<connectionBacklog>200</connectionBacklog>
<tls socketTLS="false" startTLS="true">
<keystore>file://conf/james.jks</keystore>
<secret>pass</secret>
<provider>org.bouncycastle.jce.provider.BouncyCastleProvider</provider>
<algorithm>SunX509</algorithm>
</tls>
<helloName autodetect="true">home.cryptearth.de</helloName>
<connectiontimeout>360</connectiontimeout>
<connectionLimit>0</connectionLimit>
<connectionLimitPerIP>0</connectionLimitPerIP>
<authRequired>announce</authRequired>
<authorizedAddresses>127.0.0.0/8</authorizedAddresses>
<maxmessagesize>0</maxmessagesize>
<addressBracketsEnforcement>true</addressBracketsEnforcement>
<smtpGreeting>cryptearth.de</smtpGreeting>
<handlerchain>
<handler
class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.fastfail.ValidRcptHandler"/>
<handler
class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.CoreCmdHandlerLoader"/>
<handler
class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.fastfail.SpamAssassinHandler">
<spamdHost>127.0.0.1</spamdHost>
<spamdPort>783</spamdPort>
<spamdRejectionHits>10</spamdRejectionHits>
</handler>
</handlerchain>
</smtpserver>
<smtpserver enabled="true">
<jmxName>smtpTwo</jmxName>
<bind>0.0.0.0:465</bind>
<connectionBacklog>200</connectionBacklog>
<tls socketTLS="true" startTLS="false">
<keystore>file://conf/james.jks</keystore>
<secret>pass</secret>
<provider>org.bouncycastle.jce.provider.BouncyCastleProvider</provider>
<algorithm>SunX509</algorithm>
</tls>
<helloName autodetect="true">home.cryptearth.de</helloName>
<connectiontimeout>360</connectiontimeout>
<connectionLimit>0</connectionLimit>
<connectionLimitPerIP>0</connectionLimitPerIP>
<authRequired>announce</authRequired>
<authorizedAddresses>127.0.0.0/8</authorizedAddresses>
<maxmessagesize>0</maxmessagesize>
<addressBracketsEnforcement>true</addressBracketsEnforcement>
<smtpGreeting>cryptearth.de</smtpGreeting>
<handlerchain>
<handler
class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.fastfail.ValidRcptHandler"/>
<handler
class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.CoreCmdHandlerLoader"/>
<handler
class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.fastfail.SpamAssassinHandler">
<spamdHost>127.0.0.1</spamdHost>
<spamdPort>783</spamdPort>
<spamdRejectionHits>10</spamdRejectionHits>
</handler>
</handlerchain>
</smtpserver>
<smtpserver enabled="true">
<jmxName>smtpThree</jmxName>
<bind>0.0.0.0:587</bind>
<connectionBacklog>200</connectionBacklog>
<tls socketTLS="false" startTLS="true">
<keystore>file://conf/james.jks</keystore>
<secret>pass</secret>
<provider>org.bouncycastle.jce.provider.BouncyCastleProvider</provider>
<algorithm>SunX509</algorithm>
</tls>
<helloName autodetect="true">home.cryptearth.de</helloName>
<connectiontimeout>360</connectiontimeout>
<connectionLimit>0</connectionLimit>
<connectionLimitPerIP>0</connectionLimitPerIP>
<authRequired>announce</authRequired>
<authorizedAddresses>127.0.0.0/8</authorizedAddresses>
<maxmessagesize>0</maxmessagesize>
<addressBracketsEnforcement>true</addressBracketsEnforcement>
<smtpGreeting>cryptearth.de</smtpGreeting>
<handlerchain>
<handler
class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.fastfail.ValidRcptHandler"/>
<handler
class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.CoreCmdHandlerLoader"/>
<handler
class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.fastfail.SpamAssassinHandler">
<spamdHost>127.0.0.1</spamdHost>
<spamdPort>783</spamdPort>
<spamdRejectionHits>10</spamdRejectionHits>
</handler>
</handlerchain>
</smtpserver>
</smtpservers>
Note I added jmxName in all three - reason for this is when jmxName is
omitted in all thread, james tries "smtpserver" as default for all of
them - wich fails for the 2nd as "smtpserver" already exists for the
first one > lead to crash and james can't startup. After fixing this
james starts up complete with all three ports active. I tested to
connect and auth to them wich worked without any issue for startTLS and
socketTLS. So, unless you have something else in your config or get
errors when starting james (I recommend to test with "./james console"
until you get it) it should work fine. Maybe adding jmxName fixes it to
override default "smtpserver" bean name.
Hope this helps ...
Matt
Am 27.06.2019 um 14:35 schrieb cryptearth:
Don't worry about usage of mail-list - you get used to it by using it.
I had same issues when I first asked here. A good maillist-capable
client makes things easier. I don't know about Mail for Win10 - but
Thunderbird is a good choice.
To be honest: I just wrote what I remember back from a topic about the
same issue, I never tried it myself as I never encountered the issue I
couldn't connect on TCP/25 to my server. As said: filtering outgoing
TCP/25 for customers is common practice for ISPs or security aware
admins on big networks like campus or the like. I have to test it
myself to give you a better explanation. Maybe someone else get it
faster.
Just wait for another reply, either from me or from others. But we
will get this done to help you.
Matt
Am 27.06.2019 um 12:14 schrieb Jason Tjankilisan:
(Im sorry for double posting,im still confused of how this mailing
list works)
Halo Matt,
First of all, I want to thank you for the solution provided and for
the explanation.
I try to follow your instruction by adding said <smtpserver> tag and
change the <bind>, and <tlsSocket> to true (I copy paste the info
from my port 25 SMTP and didn’t include the jmxname because it can be
ignored):
<smtpserver enabled="true">
<bind>0.0.0.0:465</bind>
<tls socketTLS="true" startTLS="false">
<keystore>file://conf/keystore</keystore>
<secret>pass</secret>
<provider>org.bouncycastle.jce.provider.BouncyCastleProvider</provider>
<algorithm>SunX509</algorithm>
</tls>
<connectiontimeout>360</connectiontimeout>
<!-- Set the maximum simultaneous incoming connections for
this service -->
<connectionLimit>0</connectionLimit>
<!-- Set the maximum simultaneous incoming connections per
IP for this service -->
<connectionLimitPerIP>0</connectionLimitPerIP>
<authRequired>true</authRequired>
<authorizedAddresses>127.0.0.0/8</authorizedAddresses>
<maxmessagesize>0</maxmessagesize>
<addressBracketsEnforcement>true</addressBracketsEnforcement>
<handlerchain>
<handler
class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.fastfail.ValidRcptHandler"/>
<handler
class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.CoreCmdHandlerLoader"/>
</handlerchain>
</smtpserver>
And I try to get my mail server from thunderbird (also changed the
setting to port 465 SSL/TLS), but the connection got refused and I
cant even send email. I try putting the SMTP port 465 code under the
SMTP port 25, so maybe the SMTP port 25 get loaded first before the
465, but still no luck.
Is there something im doing wrong or I miss or I need to look out?
Sincerely, Jason
Sorry for any wrong word, and thank you for the help
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: cryptearth
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:03 AM
To: server-user@james.apache.org
Subject: Re: How to configure SMTP so thunderbird can send email /
receiveemail from outside world?
Hello Jason,
if I remeber correctly from an older topic, it's possible to use more
than one port per service. In <james>/conf/smtpserver.xml you normal
have this layout:
<smtpservers>
<smtpserver>
<bind>0.0.0.0:25</bind>
</smtpserver>
</smtpservers>
This is the required one on TCP/25 for receiving e-mails from the
outside world. Why? SMTP uses TCP/25 for inter-server communication:
each MTA that want to talk to another MTA has to do this on TCP/25 - if
TCP/25 isn't open or there is no SMTP server on this port mails can't be
delievered.
If you want additional ports for TCP/465 (socketTLS) or TCP/587
(startTLS) you just have to add another <smtpserver>-block. You can just
copy the existing block. But you have to change the jmxName, or delete
it, as there can't multiple jmx entries with the same name.
So you can do this:
<smtpservers>
<smtpserver>
<bind>0.0.0.0:25</bind>
<tls socketTLS="false" startTLS="true">
<!-- stuff -->
</tls>
</smtpserver>
<smtpserver>
<bind>0.0.0.0:465</bind>
<tls socketTLS="true" startTLS="false">
<!-- stuff -->
</tls>
</smtpserver>
<smtpserver>
<bind>0.0.0.0:587</bind>
<tls socketTLS="false" startTLS="true">
<!-- stuff -->
</tls>
</smtpserver>
</smtpservers>
This way you open your james on ports 25, 465 and 587. The startTLS on
25 is so other MTA can drop mails over encrypted channel, but you can
set it to false. Make sure to set authRequired to announce to enforce
SMTP AUTH or set authroizedAddress correctly (also check
mailetcontainer.xml !).
About TCP/25 is marked as spam - I guess you're either in a larger
network or use an ISP with strict policies, as it shouldn't be blocked
allthough it's a good anti-spam mechanic. Try contact the admin/support
about policies about TCP/25.
Matt
Am 27.06.2019 um 05:09 schrieb Jason Tjankilisan:
Halo,
After doing some research about my problem, I found
this https://www.mail-archive.com/server-user@james.apache.org/msg15590.html and
from what im understanding that if my SMTP use port other than 25, I
cannot get any email from outside world? (Gmail, Yahoo I pressume)
I might be wrong since im new but, to send email to outside world, I
need port 465 with SSL/TLS Socket on so it wont be recognized as
spam. In addition, it seems using port 25 as SMTP port to send email
using thunderbird always create a connection time out error.
For the IMAP server, I can use port 993 with socketTLS and port 143
with no problem to get new email, as long as the SMTP port stay on
25. (Additional Info : keystore was created using Letsencrypt)
(When I change SMTP port to 465, I got this error from gmail)
The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. Learn
more
at https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720 [jason.107.jp. 5.189.160.138:
generic::failed_precondition: connect error (111): Connection refused]
So is there any way for my SMTP to use port 465 and still get email
from outside my server?
Sincerely, Jason
Sorry for any wrong word, and thank you for the help
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