+1. SOA should be associated with business value instead of just 
using web services. It's kind of disappointing to see so many "SOA 
projects" which just uses "SOA products" without the implementors 
really understanding the concept behind.

H.Ozawa

--- In [email protected], "Steve 
Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Caveat: My day job is as Head of SOA in an Outsourcing company
> 
> I don't think SOA means in house only, it can be very much about
> understanding what should be retained in house and what is not core
> and ensuring that the internal people are focused on the value and
> leaving people with greater scale to industrialise the business
> services that are not differentiating.
> 
> Outsourcing also doesn't just mean cheaper it also more and more 
has
> to demonstrate how it brings appropriate value.  Again a shift away
> from applications and towards Business Services makes a lot of 
sense.
> 
> Company plug (something I try and avoid but this is relevant):
> 
http://www.capgemini.com/services/outsourcing/applications/solutions/
> puts SOA and BSA at the heart of how we do things in particular 
how we
> understand the most appropriate cost and value model for a given 
area.
> 
> Steve
> 

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