Hi Yasumasa,
Wood it be MT-safe to do this to avoid locks at handshake time? :
JvmtiEventController::set_frame_pop(JvmtiEnvThreadState *ets,
JvmtiFramePop fpop) {
- MutexLocker mu(SafepointSynchronize::is_at_safepoint() ? NULL :
JvmtiThreadState_lock);
+ MutexLocker mu(Thread::current ==
ets->get_thread()->active_handshaker() ? NULL : JvmtiThreadState_lock);
JvmtiEventControllerPrivate::set_frame_pop(ets, fpop);
}
void
JvmtiEventController::clear_frame_pop(JvmtiEnvThreadState *ets,
JvmtiFramePop fpop) {
- MutexLocker mu(SafepointSynchronize::is_at_safepoint() ? NULL :
JvmtiThreadState_lock);
+ MutexLocker mu(Thread::current ==
ets->get_thread()->active_handshaker() ? NULL : JvmtiThreadState_lock);
JvmtiEventControllerPrivate::clear_frame_pop(ets, fpop);
}
void
JvmtiEventController::clear_to_frame_pop(JvmtiEnvThreadState *ets,
JvmtiFramePop fpop) {
- MutexLocker mu(SafepointSynchronize::is_at_safepoint() ? NULL :
JvmtiThreadState_lock);
+ MutexLocker mu(Thread::current ==
ets->get_thread()->active_handshaker() ? NULL : JvmtiThreadState_lock);
JvmtiEventControllerPrivate::clear_to_frame_pop(ets, fpop);
}
Thanks,
Serguei
On 9/2/20 01:42, serguei.spit...@oracle.com wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
Thank you for the explanation. At least, I see the real motivation.
I've overlooked this in the email thread.
Thanks,
Serguei
On 9/2/20 00:00, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi Serguei,
On 2020/09/02 15:29, David Holmes wrote:
Hi Serguei,
On 2/09/2020 4:11 pm, serguei.spit...@oracle.com wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
It seems to me your update for sync with the JvmtiThreadState_lock
is incorrect.
Let me explain it.
The original design was that the functions is_frame_pop,
set_frame_pop, clear_frame_pop and clear_to_frame_pop are always
called either on the current thread or in a VMop.
There are 3 levels of these functions: in JvmtiEnvThreadState,
JvmtiEventController and JvmtiEventControllerPrivate.
You already found the JvmtiThreadState_lock is grabbed in the
JvmtiEventController versions of these functions.
It is for MT-safety of the recompute_thread_enabled() which can be
called not only on current thread and VMop.
Right, but now that we use a handshake, not a VMop, we have no
safepoint to guarantee MT-safety and so we have to use the lock to
ensure that.
In addition we cannot take the MutexLocker inside a handshakes
because we might see deadlock with the handshake semaphore.
So we have to grab JvmtiThreadState_lock before execute_direct().
https://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/serviceability-dev/2020-August/032754.html
Thanks,
Yasumasa
David
-----
So, I think adding MutexLocker's to the jvmtiEnv.cpp and
jvmtiExport.cpp is not needed:
+ MutexLocker mu(JvmtiThreadState_lock);
+ if (java_thread == JavaThread::current()) {
+ state->update_for_pop_top_frame();
+ } else {
+ UpdateForPopTopFrameClosure op(state);
. . .
+ MutexLocker mu(JvmtiThreadState_lock);
if (java_thread == JavaThread::current()) {
int frame_number = state->count_frames() - depth;
state->env_thread_state(this)->set_frame_pop(frame_number);
} else {
- VM_SetFramePop op(this, state, depth);
- VMThread::execute(&op);
- err = op.result();
+ SetFramePopClosure op(this, state, depth);
+ bool executed = Handshake::execute_direct(&op, java_thread);
+ err = executed ? op.result() : JVMTI_ERROR_THREAD_NOT_ALIVE;
. . .
+ MutexLocker mu(JvmtiThreadState_lock);
ets->clear_frame_pop(cur_frame_number);
Instead, they have to be restored in the JvmtiEventController
functions:
void
JvmtiEventController::set_frame_pop(JvmtiEnvThreadState *ets,
JvmtiFramePop fpop) {
- MutexLocker mu(SafepointSynchronize::is_at_safepoint() ? NULL :
JvmtiThreadState_lock);
+ assert_lock_strong(JvmtiThreadState_lock);
JvmtiEventControllerPrivate::set_frame_pop(ets, fpop);
}
void
JvmtiEventController::clear_frame_pop(JvmtiEnvThreadState *ets,
JvmtiFramePop fpop) {
- MutexLocker mu(SafepointSynchronize::is_at_safepoint() ? NULL :
JvmtiThreadState_lock);
+ assert_lock_strong(JvmtiThreadState_lock);
JvmtiEventControllerPrivate::clear_frame_pop(ets, fpop);
}
void
JvmtiEventController::clear_to_frame_pop(JvmtiEnvThreadState *ets,
JvmtiFramePop fpop) {
- MutexLocker mu(SafepointSynchronize::is_at_safepoint() ? NULL :
JvmtiThreadState_lock);
+ assert_lock_strong(JvmtiThreadState_lock);
JvmtiEventControllerPrivate::clear_to_frame_pop(ets, fpop);
}
Thanks,
Serguei
On 9/1/20 21:34, serguei.spit...@oracle.com wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
On 9/1/20 21:17, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi David,
On 2020/09/02 13:13, David Holmes wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
On 31/08/2020 7:10 pm, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi David,
I uploaded new webrev. Could you review again?
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ysuenaga/JDK-8242427/webrev.04/
This webrev includes two changes:
1. Use assert_lock_strong() for JvmtiThreadState_lock
http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk/submit/rev/c85f93d2042d
2. Check return value from execute_direct() with assert()
http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk/submit/rev/8746e1651343
The message for the assertion:
assert(executed, "Direct handshake failed. Target thread is
still alive?");
should be phrased:
assert(executed, "Direct handshake failed. Target thread is not
alive?");
otherwise it sounds like the expectation is that it should not
be alive.
Other changes fine.
No need to see updated webrev.
Thanks for your review!
I will fix them before pushing.
Please, hold on.
I'm still reviewing this.
It is not clear yet if sync with the JvmtiThreadState_lock is
fully correct.
Thanks,
Serguei
Yasumasa
Thanks,
David
-----
Thanks,
Yasumasa
On 2020/08/31 15:22, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi David,
On 2020/08/31 14:43, David Holmes wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
On 28/08/2020 1:01 pm, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi David,
On 2020/08/28 11:04, David Holmes wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
On 28/08/2020 11:24 am, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi David,
On 2020/08/27 15:49, David Holmes wrote:
Sorry I just realized I reviewed version 00 :(
Note that my comments on version 00 in my earlier email
still apply.
I copied here your comment on webrev.00:
I see. It is a pity that we have now lost that critical
indicator that shows how this operation can be nested
within another operation. The possibility of nesting is
even more obscure with
JvmtiEnvThreadState::reset_current_location. And the
fact it is now up to the caller to handle that case
explicitly raises some concern - what will happen if you
call execute_direct whilst already in a handshake with
the target thread?
I heard deadlock would be happen if execute_direct() calls
in direct handshake. Thus we need to use active_handshaker()
in this change.
Okay. This is something we need to clarify with direct
handshake usage information. I think it would be preferable
if this was handled in execute_direct rather than the caller
... though it may also be the case that we need the writer of
the handshake operation to give due consideration to nesting ...
Agree, I also prefer to check whether caller is in direct
handshake in execute_direct().
But I think this is another enhancement because we need to
change the behavior of execute_direct().
Further comments:
src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiEnvThreadState.cpp
194 #ifdef ASSERT
195 Thread *current = Thread::current();
196 #endif
197 assert(get_thread() == current || current ==
get_thread()->active_handshaker(),
198 "frame pop data only accessible from same
thread or direct handshake");
Can you factor this out into a separate function so that
it is not repeated so often. Seems to me that there
should be a global function on Thread:
assert_current_thread_or_handshaker() [yes unpleasant
name but ...] that will allow us to stop repeating this
code fragment across numerous files. A follow up RFE for
that would be okay too (I see some guarantees that
should probably just be asserts so they need a bit more
checking).
I filed it as another RFE:
https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8252479
Thanks.
331 Handshake::execute_direct(&op, _thread);
You aren't checking the return value of execute_direct,
but I can't tell where _thread was checked for still
being alive ??
---
src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiEventController.cpp
340 Handshake::execute_direct(&hs, target);
I know this is existing code but I have the same query
as above - no return value check and no clear check that
the JavaThread is still alive?
Existing code seems to assume that target thread is alive,
frame operations (e.g. PopFrame()) should be performed on
live thread. And also existing code would not set any JVMTI
error and cannot propagate it to caller. So I do not add the
check for thread state.
Okay. But note that for PopFrame the tests for isAlive and
is-suspended have already been performed before we do the
execute_direct; so in that case we could simply assert that
execute_direct returns true. Similarly for other cases.
Ok, I will change as following in next webrev:
```
bool result = Handshake::execute_direct(&hs, target);
guarantee(result, "Direct handshake failed. Target thread is
still alive?");
```
Thanks,
Yasumasa
Do we know if the existing tests actually test the
nested cases?
I saw some error with assertion for JvmtiThreadState_lock
and safepoint in vmTestbase at first, so I guess nested call
would be tested, but I'm not sure.
I have concerns with the added locking:
MutexLocker mu(JvmtiThreadState_lock);
Who else may be holding that lock? Could it be our target
thread that we have already initiated a handshake with?
(The lock ranking checks related to safepoints don't help
us detect deadlocks between a target thread and its
handshaker. :( )
I checked source code again, then I couldn't find the
point that target thread already locked
JvmtiThreadState_lock at direct handshake.
I'm very unclear exactly what state this lock guards and
under what conditions. But looking at:
src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiEnv.cpp
Surely the lock is only needed in the direct-handshake case
and not when operating on the current thread? Or is it
there because you've removed the locking from the
lower-level JvmtiEventController methods and so now you
need to take the lock higher-up the call chain? (I find it
hard to follow the call chains in the JVMTI code.)
We need to take the lock higher-up the call chain. It is
suggested by Robbin, and works fine.
Okay. It seems reasonably safe in this context as there is
little additional work done while holding the lock.
It is far from clear now which functions are reachable
from handshakes, which from safepoint VM_ops and which
from both.
! assert(SafepointSynchronize::is_at_safepoint() ||
JvmtiThreadState_lock->is_locked(), "Safepoint or must be
locked");
This can be written as:
assert_locked_or_safepoint(JvmtiThreadState_lock);
or possibly the weak variant of that. ('m puzzled by the
extra check in the strong version ... I think it is
intended for the case of the VMThread executing a
non-safepoint VMop.)
JvmtiEventController::set_frame_pop(),
JvmtiEventController::clear_frame_pop() and
JvmtiEventController::clear_to_frame_pop() are no longer
called at safepoint, so I remove safepoint check from
assert() in new webrev.
You should use assert_lock_strong for this.
I will do that.
Thanks,
David
-----
Thanks,
Yasumasa
Thanks,
David
webrev:
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ysuenaga/JDK-8242427/webrev.03/
diff from previous webrev:
http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk/submit/rev/2a2c02ada080
Thanks,
Yasumasa
Thanks,
David
-----
On 27/08/2020 4:34 pm, David Holmes wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
On 27/08/2020 9:40 am, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi David,
On 2020/08/27 8:09, David Holmes wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
On 26/08/2020 5:34 pm, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi Patricio, David,
Thanks for your comment!
I updated webrev which includes the fix which is
commented by Patricio, and it passed submit repo. So
I switch this mail thread to RFR.
JBS: https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8242427
webrev:
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ysuenaga/JDK-8242427/webrev.00/
I understand David said same concerns as Patricio
about active handshaker. This webrev checks active
handshaker is current thread or not.
How can the current thread already be in a handshake
with the target when you execute this code?
EnterInterpOnlyModeClosure might be called in handshake
with UpdateForPopTopFrameClosure or with
SetFramePopClosure.
EnterInterpOnlyModeClosure is introduced in JDK-8238585
as an alternative in VM_EnterInterpOnlyMode.
VM_EnterInterpOnlyMode returned true in
allow_nested_vm_operations(). Originally, it could have
been called from other VM operations.
I see. It is a pity that we have now lost that critical
indicator that shows how this operation can be nested
within another operation. The possibility of nesting is
even more obscure with
JvmtiEnvThreadState::reset_current_location. And the
fact it is now up to the caller to handle that case
explicitly raises some concern - what will happen if you
call execute_direct whilst already in a handshake with
the target thread?
I can't help but feel that we need a more rigorous and
automated way of dealing with nesting ... perhaps we
don't even need to care and handshakes should always
allow nested handshake requests? (Question more for
Robbin and Patricio.)
Further comments:
src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiEnvThreadState.cpp
194 #ifdef ASSERT
195 Thread *current = Thread::current();
196 #endif
197 assert(get_thread() == current || current ==
get_thread()->active_handshaker(),
198 "frame pop data only accessible from same
thread or direct handshake");
Can you factor this out into a separate function so that
it is not repeated so often. Seems to me that there
should be a global function on Thread:
assert_current_thread_or_handshaker() [yes unpleasant
name but ...] that will allow us to stop repeating this
code fragment across numerous files. A follow up RFE for
that would be okay too (I see some guarantees that
should probably just be asserts so they need a bit more
checking).
331 Handshake::execute_direct(&op, _thread);
You aren't checking the return value of execute_direct,
but I can't tell where _thread was checked for still
being alive ??
---
src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiEventController.cpp
340 Handshake::execute_direct(&hs, target);
I know this is existing code but I have the same query
as above - no return value check and no clear check that
the JavaThread is still alive?
---
Do we know if the existing tests actually test the
nested cases?
Thanks,
David
-----
Thanks,
Yasumasa
David
-----
Cheers,
Yasumasa
On 2020/08/26 10:13, Patricio Chilano wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
On 8/23/20 11:40 PM, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi all,
I want to hear your opinions about the change for
JDK-8242427.
I'm trying to migrate following operations to
direct handshake.
- VM_UpdateForPopTopFrame
- VM_SetFramePop
- VM_GetCurrentLocation
Some operations (VM_GetCurrentLocation and
EnterInterpOnlyModeClosure) might be called at
safepoint, so I want to use
JavaThread::active_handshaker() in production VM to
detect the process is in direct handshake or not.
However this function is available in debug VM
only, so I want to hear the reason why it is for
debug VM only, and there are no problem to use it
in production VM. Of course another solutions are
welcome.
I added the _active_handshaker field to the
HandshakeState class when working on 8230594 to
adjust some asserts, where instead of checking for
the VMThread we needed to check for the active
handshaker of the target JavaThread. Since there
were no other users of it, there was no point in
declaring it and having to write to it for the
release bits. There are no issues with having it in
production though so you could change that if
necessary.
webrev is here. It passed jtreg tests
(vmTestbase/nsk/{jdi,jdwp,jvmti}
serviceability/{jdwp,jvmti})
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ysuenaga/JDK-8242427/proposal/
Some comments on the proposed change.
src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiEnvThreadState.cpp,
src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiEventController.cpp
Why is the check to decide whether to call the
handshake or execute the operation with the current
thread different for GetCurrentLocationClosure vs
EnterInterpOnlyModeClosure?
(GetCurrentLocationClosure)
if ((Thread::current() == _thread) ||
(_thread->active_handshaker() != NULL)) {
op.do_thread(_thread);
} else {
Handshake::execute_direct(&op, _thread);
}
vs
(EnterInterpOnlyModeClosure)
if (target->active_handshaker() != NULL) {
hs.do_thread(target);
} else {
Handshake::execute_direct(&hs, target);
}
If you change VM_SetFramePop to use handshakes then
it seems you could reach
JvmtiEventControllerPrivate::enter_interp_only_mode()
with the current thread being the target.
Also I think you want the second expression of that
check to be (target->active_handshaker() ==
Thread::current()). So either you are the target or
the current active_handshaker for that target.
Otherwise active_handshaker() could be not NULL
because there is another JavaThread handshaking the
same target. Unless you are certain that it can
never happen, so if active_handshaker() is not NULL
it is always the current thread, but even in that
case this way is safer.
src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiThreadState.cpp
The guarantee() statement exists in release builds
too so the "#ifdef ASSERT" directive should be
removed, otherwise "current" will not be declared.
Thanks!
Patricio
Thanks,
Yasumasa