Hi Yasumasa,
Only PopFrame, ForceEarlyReturn, NotifyFramePop and ResumeThread require
the target thread to be suspended.
Other JVMTI functions do not require it.
I'm still thinking if it is a good idea to get rid of the
UpdateForPopTopFrameClosure and SetFramePopClosure hadnshakes.
It has to be safe because the target thread is suspended.
Grabbing the JvmtiThreadState_lock is good enough to ensure MT-safety.
Thanks,
Serguei
On 9/4/20 01:28, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi Serguei,
Thanks for your review!
On 2020/09/04 15:43, serguei.spit...@oracle.com wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
Thanks for the answer and sorry for the latency. It is not easy to
double check everything related to the JvmtiThreadState_lock use.
You are right, it is not safe to remove the MutexLockers around the
direct handshakes (unfortunately, I'm still floating with the
handshake closures).
I also had this question:
Q: Why do we need UpdateForPopTopFrameClosure and SetFramePopClosure
if we already protect data with the JvmtiThreadState_lock?
We need to suspend target thread (e.g. debugee) if we want to do frame
operation. I think we cannot do frame operation safety without
stopping target thread.
So I chose direct handshake to avoid stopping the other threads.
Thanks,
Yasumasa
However, I'd be even morenervous to get rid of these closures as it
is hard to predict all the consequences. The concern is the
JvmtiEnvThreadState functions like get_frame_pops, has_frame_pos and
is_frame_pop. They were designed to be called on the current thread
or in a VMops/Handshake. Changing the _frame_pops on other threads
without handshakes (even under protection of the
JvmtiThreadState_lock) will break this design as these functions are
not protected with the JvmtiThreadState_lock.
So, I'm getting along with your sync approach now.
There is a similar sync pattern with the EnterInterpOnlyModeClosure
and functions enter_interp_only_mode/leave_interp_only_mode which are
called in the recompute_thread_enabled and recompute_enabled. The
JvmtiThreadState_lock is also grabbed around this handshake closure.
You fix moved MutexLockers from the JvmtiEventController functions
set_frame_pop and clear_frame_pop to all their callers which should
be fine in general. The function
JvmtiEventController::clear_to_frame_pop is used by the
JvmtiEnvThreadState::clear_to_frame_pop which in turn not used itself.
So, I'm okay with the fix.
Thank you for your patience and answers!
Thanks,
Serguei
On 9/3/20 02:01, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi Serguei,
Your suggestion would not grab lock if it performs in direct
handshake, then other threads can enter these functions. Is it safe?
Thanks,
Yasumasa
On 2020/09/03 16:34, serguei.spit...@oracle.com wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
Wood it be MT-safe to do this to avoid locks at handshake time? :
JvmtiEventController::set_frame_pop(JvmtiEnvThreadState *ets,
JvmtiFramePop fpop) {
- MutexLocker mu(SafepointSynchronize::is_at_safepoint() ? NULL :
JvmtiThreadState_lock);
+ MutexLocker mu(Thread::current ==
ets->get_thread()->active_handshaker() ? NULL :
JvmtiThreadState_lock);
JvmtiEventControllerPrivate::set_frame_pop(ets, fpop);
}
void
JvmtiEventController::clear_frame_pop(JvmtiEnvThreadState *ets,
JvmtiFramePop fpop) {
- MutexLocker mu(SafepointSynchronize::is_at_safepoint() ? NULL :
JvmtiThreadState_lock);
+ MutexLocker mu(Thread::current ==
ets->get_thread()->active_handshaker() ? NULL :
JvmtiThreadState_lock);
JvmtiEventControllerPrivate::clear_frame_pop(ets, fpop);
}
void
JvmtiEventController::clear_to_frame_pop(JvmtiEnvThreadState
*ets, JvmtiFramePop fpop) {
- MutexLocker mu(SafepointSynchronize::is_at_safepoint() ? NULL :
JvmtiThreadState_lock);
+ MutexLocker mu(Thread::current ==
ets->get_thread()->active_handshaker() ? NULL :
JvmtiThreadState_lock);
JvmtiEventControllerPrivate::clear_to_frame_pop(ets, fpop);
}
Thanks,
Serguei
On 9/2/20 01:42, serguei.spit...@oracle.com wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
Thank you for the explanation. At least, I see the real motivation.
I've overlooked this in the email thread.
Thanks,
Serguei
On 9/2/20 00:00, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi Serguei,
On 2020/09/02 15:29, David Holmes wrote:
Hi Serguei,
On 2/09/2020 4:11 pm, serguei.spit...@oracle.com wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
It seems to me your update for sync with the
JvmtiThreadState_lock is incorrect.
Let me explain it.
The original design was that the functions is_frame_pop,
set_frame_pop, clear_frame_pop and clear_to_frame_pop are
always called either on the current thread or in a VMop.
There are 3 levels of these functions: in JvmtiEnvThreadState,
JvmtiEventController and JvmtiEventControllerPrivate.
You already found the JvmtiThreadState_lock is grabbed in the
JvmtiEventController versions of these functions.
It is for MT-safety of the recompute_thread_enabled() which can
be called not only on current thread and VMop.
Right, but now that we use a handshake, not a VMop, we have no
safepoint to guarantee MT-safety and so we have to use the lock
to ensure that.
In addition we cannot take the MutexLocker inside a handshakes
because we might see deadlock with the handshake semaphore.
So we have to grab JvmtiThreadState_lock before execute_direct().
https://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/serviceability-dev/2020-August/032754.html
Thanks,
Yasumasa
David
-----
So, I think adding MutexLocker's to the jvmtiEnv.cpp and
jvmtiExport.cpp is not needed:
+ MutexLocker mu(JvmtiThreadState_lock);
+ if (java_thread == JavaThread::current()) {
+ state->update_for_pop_top_frame();
+ } else {
+ UpdateForPopTopFrameClosure op(state);
. . .
+ MutexLocker mu(JvmtiThreadState_lock);
if (java_thread == JavaThread::current()) {
int frame_number = state->count_frames() - depth;
state->env_thread_state(this)->set_frame_pop(frame_number);
} else {
- VM_SetFramePop op(this, state, depth);
- VMThread::execute(&op);
- err = op.result();
+ SetFramePopClosure op(this, state, depth);
+ bool executed = Handshake::execute_direct(&op, java_thread);
+ err = executed ? op.result() : JVMTI_ERROR_THREAD_NOT_ALIVE;
. . .
+ MutexLocker mu(JvmtiThreadState_lock);
ets->clear_frame_pop(cur_frame_number);
Instead, they have to be restored in the JvmtiEventController
functions:
void
JvmtiEventController::set_frame_pop(JvmtiEnvThreadState *ets,
JvmtiFramePop fpop) {
- MutexLocker mu(SafepointSynchronize::is_at_safepoint() ?
NULL : JvmtiThreadState_lock);
+ assert_lock_strong(JvmtiThreadState_lock);
JvmtiEventControllerPrivate::set_frame_pop(ets, fpop);
}
void
JvmtiEventController::clear_frame_pop(JvmtiEnvThreadState *ets,
JvmtiFramePop fpop) {
- MutexLocker mu(SafepointSynchronize::is_at_safepoint() ?
NULL : JvmtiThreadState_lock);
+ assert_lock_strong(JvmtiThreadState_lock);
JvmtiEventControllerPrivate::clear_frame_pop(ets, fpop);
}
void
JvmtiEventController::clear_to_frame_pop(JvmtiEnvThreadState
*ets, JvmtiFramePop fpop) {
- MutexLocker mu(SafepointSynchronize::is_at_safepoint() ?
NULL : JvmtiThreadState_lock);
+ assert_lock_strong(JvmtiThreadState_lock);
JvmtiEventControllerPrivate::clear_to_frame_pop(ets, fpop);
}
Thanks,
Serguei
On 9/1/20 21:34, serguei.spit...@oracle.com wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
On 9/1/20 21:17, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi David,
On 2020/09/02 13:13, David Holmes wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
On 31/08/2020 7:10 pm, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi David,
I uploaded new webrev. Could you review again?
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ysuenaga/JDK-8242427/webrev.04/
This webrev includes two changes:
1. Use assert_lock_strong() for JvmtiThreadState_lock
http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk/submit/rev/c85f93d2042d
2. Check return value from execute_direct() with assert()
http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk/submit/rev/8746e1651343
The message for the assertion:
assert(executed, "Direct handshake failed. Target thread is
still alive?");
should be phrased:
assert(executed, "Direct handshake failed. Target thread is
not alive?");
otherwise it sounds like the expectation is that it should
not be alive.
Other changes fine.
No need to see updated webrev.
Thanks for your review!
I will fix them before pushing.
Please, hold on.
I'm still reviewing this.
It is not clear yet if sync with the JvmtiThreadState_lock is
fully correct.
Thanks,
Serguei
Yasumasa
Thanks,
David
-----
Thanks,
Yasumasa
On 2020/08/31 15:22, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi David,
On 2020/08/31 14:43, David Holmes wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
On 28/08/2020 1:01 pm, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi David,
On 2020/08/28 11:04, David Holmes wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
On 28/08/2020 11:24 am, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi David,
On 2020/08/27 15:49, David Holmes wrote:
Sorry I just realized I reviewed version 00 :(
Note that my comments on version 00 in my earlier email
still apply.
I copied here your comment on webrev.00:
I see. It is a pity that we have now lost that
critical indicator that shows how this operation can
be nested within another operation. The possibility
of nesting is even more obscure with
JvmtiEnvThreadState::reset_current_location. And the
fact it is now up to the caller to handle that case
explicitly raises some concern - what will happen if
you call execute_direct whilst already in a
handshake with the target thread?
I heard deadlock would be happen if execute_direct()
calls in direct handshake. Thus we need to use
active_handshaker() in this change.
Okay. This is something we need to clarify with direct
handshake usage information. I think it would be
preferable if this was handled in execute_direct rather
than the caller ... though it may also be the case that
we need the writer of the handshake operation to give due
consideration to nesting ...
Agree, I also prefer to check whether caller is in direct
handshake in execute_direct().
But I think this is another enhancement because we need to
change the behavior of execute_direct().
Further comments:
src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiEnvThreadState.cpp
194 #ifdef ASSERT
195 Thread *current = Thread::current();
196 #endif
197 assert(get_thread() == current || current ==
get_thread()->active_handshaker(),
198 "frame pop data only accessible from
same thread or direct handshake");
Can you factor this out into a separate function so
that it is not repeated so often. Seems to me that
there should be a global function on Thread:
assert_current_thread_or_handshaker() [yes
unpleasant name but ...] that will allow us to stop
repeating this code fragment across numerous files.
A follow up RFE for that would be okay too (I see
some guarantees that should probably just be asserts
so they need a bit more checking).
I filed it as another RFE:
https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8252479
Thanks.
331 Handshake::execute_direct(&op, _thread);
You aren't checking the return value of
execute_direct, but I can't tell where _thread was
checked for still being alive ??
---
src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiEventController.cpp
340 Handshake::execute_direct(&hs, target);
I know this is existing code but I have the same
query as above - no return value check and no clear
check that the JavaThread is still alive?
Existing code seems to assume that target thread is
alive, frame operations (e.g. PopFrame()) should be
performed on live thread. And also existing code would
not set any JVMTI error and cannot propagate it to
caller. So I do not add the check for thread state.
Okay. But note that for PopFrame the tests for isAlive
and is-suspended have already been performed before we do
the execute_direct; so in that case we could simply
assert that execute_direct returns true. Similarly for
other cases.
Ok, I will change as following in next webrev:
```
bool result = Handshake::execute_direct(&hs, target);
guarantee(result, "Direct handshake failed. Target thread
is still alive?");
```
Thanks,
Yasumasa
Do we know if the existing tests actually test the
nested cases?
I saw some error with assertion for
JvmtiThreadState_lock and safepoint in vmTestbase at
first, so I guess nested call would be tested, but I'm
not sure.
I have concerns with the added locking:
MutexLocker mu(JvmtiThreadState_lock);
Who else may be holding that lock? Could it be our
target thread that we have already initiated a
handshake with? (The lock ranking checks related to
safepoints don't help us detect deadlocks between a
target thread and its handshaker. :( )
I checked source code again, then I couldn't find the
point that target thread already locked
JvmtiThreadState_lock at direct handshake.
I'm very unclear exactly what state this lock guards
and under what conditions. But looking at:
src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiEnv.cpp
Surely the lock is only needed in the direct-handshake
case and not when operating on the current thread? Or
is it there because you've removed the locking from the
lower-level JvmtiEventController methods and so now you
need to take the lock higher-up the call chain? (I find
it hard to follow the call chains in the JVMTI code.)
We need to take the lock higher-up the call chain. It is
suggested by Robbin, and works fine.
Okay. It seems reasonably safe in this context as there
is little additional work done while holding the lock.
It is far from clear now which functions are
reachable from handshakes, which from safepoint
VM_ops and which from both.
! assert(SafepointSynchronize::is_at_safepoint() ||
JvmtiThreadState_lock->is_locked(), "Safepoint or
must be locked");
This can be written as:
assert_locked_or_safepoint(JvmtiThreadState_lock);
or possibly the weak variant of that. ('m puzzled by
the extra check in the strong version ... I think it
is intended for the case of the VMThread executing a
non-safepoint VMop.)
JvmtiEventController::set_frame_pop(),
JvmtiEventController::clear_frame_pop() and
JvmtiEventController::clear_to_frame_pop() are no
longer called at safepoint, so I remove safepoint
check from assert() in new webrev.
You should use assert_lock_strong for this.
I will do that.
Thanks,
David
-----
Thanks,
Yasumasa
Thanks,
David
webrev:
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ysuenaga/JDK-8242427/webrev.03/
diff from previous webrev:
http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk/submit/rev/2a2c02ada080
Thanks,
Yasumasa
Thanks,
David
-----
On 27/08/2020 4:34 pm, David Holmes wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
On 27/08/2020 9:40 am, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi David,
On 2020/08/27 8:09, David Holmes wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
On 26/08/2020 5:34 pm, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi Patricio, David,
Thanks for your comment!
I updated webrev which includes the fix which is
commented by Patricio, and it passed submit repo.
So I switch this mail thread to RFR.
JBS:
https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8242427
webrev:
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ysuenaga/JDK-8242427/webrev.00/
I understand David said same concerns as Patricio
about active handshaker. This webrev checks
active handshaker is current thread or not.
How can the current thread already be in a
handshake with the target when you execute this code?
EnterInterpOnlyModeClosure might be called in
handshake with UpdateForPopTopFrameClosure or with
SetFramePopClosure.
EnterInterpOnlyModeClosure is introduced in
JDK-8238585 as an alternative in
VM_EnterInterpOnlyMode.
VM_EnterInterpOnlyMode returned true in
allow_nested_vm_operations(). Originally, it could
have been called from other VM operations.
I see. It is a pity that we have now lost that
critical indicator that shows how this operation can
be nested within another operation. The possibility
of nesting is even more obscure with
JvmtiEnvThreadState::reset_current_location. And the
fact it is now up to the caller to handle that case
explicitly raises some concern - what will happen if
you call execute_direct whilst already in a
handshake with the target thread?
I can't help but feel that we need a more rigorous
and automated way of dealing with nesting ...
perhaps we don't even need to care and handshakes
should always allow nested handshake requests?
(Question more for Robbin and Patricio.)
Further comments:
src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiEnvThreadState.cpp
194 #ifdef ASSERT
195 Thread *current = Thread::current();
196 #endif
197 assert(get_thread() == current || current ==
get_thread()->active_handshaker(),
198 "frame pop data only accessible from
same thread or direct handshake");
Can you factor this out into a separate function so
that it is not repeated so often. Seems to me that
there should be a global function on Thread:
assert_current_thread_or_handshaker() [yes
unpleasant name but ...] that will allow us to stop
repeating this code fragment across numerous files.
A follow up RFE for that would be okay too (I see
some guarantees that should probably just be asserts
so they need a bit more checking).
331 Handshake::execute_direct(&op, _thread);
You aren't checking the return value of
execute_direct, but I can't tell where _thread was
checked for still being alive ??
---
src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiEventController.cpp
340 Handshake::execute_direct(&hs, target);
I know this is existing code but I have the same
query as above - no return value check and no clear
check that the JavaThread is still alive?
---
Do we know if the existing tests actually test the
nested cases?
Thanks,
David
-----
Thanks,
Yasumasa
David
-----
Cheers,
Yasumasa
On 2020/08/26 10:13, Patricio Chilano wrote:
Hi Yasumasa,
On 8/23/20 11:40 PM, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi all,
I want to hear your opinions about the change
for JDK-8242427.
I'm trying to migrate following operations to
direct handshake.
- VM_UpdateForPopTopFrame
- VM_SetFramePop
- VM_GetCurrentLocation
Some operations (VM_GetCurrentLocation and
EnterInterpOnlyModeClosure) might be called at
safepoint, so I want to use
JavaThread::active_handshaker() in production
VM to detect the process is in direct handshake
or not.
However this function is available in debug VM
only, so I want to hear the reason why it is
for debug VM only, and there are no problem to
use it in production VM. Of course another
solutions are welcome.
I added the _active_handshaker field to the
HandshakeState class when working on 8230594 to
adjust some asserts, where instead of checking
for the VMThread we needed to check for the
active handshaker of the target JavaThread.
Since there were no other users of it, there was
no point in declaring it and having to write to
it for the release bits. There are no issues
with having it in production though so you could
change that if necessary.
webrev is here. It passed jtreg tests
(vmTestbase/nsk/{jdi,jdwp,jvmti}
serviceability/{jdwp,jvmti})
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ysuenaga/JDK-8242427/proposal/
Some comments on the proposed change.
src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiEnvThreadState.cpp,
src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiEventController.cpp
Why is the check to decide whether to call the
handshake or execute the operation with the
current thread different for
GetCurrentLocationClosure vs
EnterInterpOnlyModeClosure?
(GetCurrentLocationClosure)
if ((Thread::current() == _thread) ||
(_thread->active_handshaker() != NULL)) {
op.do_thread(_thread);
} else {
Handshake::execute_direct(&op, _thread);
}
vs
(EnterInterpOnlyModeClosure)
if (target->active_handshaker() != NULL) {
hs.do_thread(target);
} else {
Handshake::execute_direct(&hs, target);
}
If you change VM_SetFramePop to use handshakes
then it seems you could reach
JvmtiEventControllerPrivate::enter_interp_only_mode()
with the current thread being the target.
Also I think you want the second expression of
that check to be (target->active_handshaker() ==
Thread::current()). So either you are the target
or the current active_handshaker for that
target. Otherwise active_handshaker() could be
not NULL because there is another JavaThread
handshaking the same target. Unless you are
certain that it can never happen, so if
active_handshaker() is not NULL it is always the
current thread, but even in that case this way
is safer.
src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiThreadState.cpp
The guarantee() statement exists in release
builds too so the "#ifdef ASSERT" directive
should be removed, otherwise "current" will not
be declared.
Thanks!
Patricio
Thanks,
Yasumasa