On 5/2/24 3:09 AM, Sebastian Lövdahl wrote:
Interesting, TIL about /proc/<pid>/ns. I tried to look for something like that but couldn't find anything relevant in /proc/<pid>/status.

ok


So, a pixel perfect solution could compare these IDs to know whether /tmp or /proc/<pid>/root/tmp should be used.

> 2. jcmd treats it as a heuristic and attempts each way during the socket file read - first /proc/<pid>/root/tmp and then /tmp.

This is what I had in mind as well, and what I actually implemented and tested already. I think I'll just go ahead and open a PR with those changes, and we can take it from there.

yes, IMO the attachee should always use /proc/self/root/tmp and the attacher should compare /proc/<attachee_pid>/ns/mnt with its /proc/self/ns/mnt with Path::toString comparison, if they match then it is "safe" to use /tmp, if they do not then it must resort to using /proc/<attachee_pid>/ns/mnt if the attacher does not have sufficient privilege to access that due
to attachee capabilities etc then the attach will fail

Rgds

- Larry

/Sebastian

On 2024-05-02 03:43, Laurence Cable wrote:
just to demonstrate:

$ docker run -it --name=js1  openjdk:17.0.1-jdk  /bin/jshell
...
$ docker run -it --name js2 --pid=container:js1 openjdk:17.0.1 /bin/jshell


$ docker exec -it js1  bash
bash-4.4# ls /tmp/hsperfdata_root
1  26
bash-4.4# readlink /proc/26/ns/pid
pid:[4026532751]
bash-4.4# readlink /proc/26/ns/mnt
mnt:[4026532747]
bash-4.4# exit
[lpgc@arran ~]$ docker exec -it js2  bash
bash-4.4# ls /tmp/hsperfdata_root
107  82
bash-4.4# readlink /proc/107/ns/pid
pid:[4026532751]
bash-4.4# readlink /proc/107/ns/mnt
mnt:[4026532941]

you will note that the JVM pid: 26 and 107 occupy the same pid namespace (4026532751) but occupy different mnt namespaces (4026532747, 4026532941)

therefore attempting to attach via '/tmp' will fail, /proc/<pid>/root/tmp must be used to rendezvous

- Larry


On 5/1/24 2:03 PM, Doyle, James, K wrote:
Hi Sebastian,

I think I can confirm that there is a regression.
Thanks for reproducing the regression, your test makes sense to me, and I think it is similar to the scenario we have with Kubernetes debug containers (separate filesystems, but same PID namespace).

I noticed some of the other recent Pull Request comments on https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/17628:

should it not be comparing pid namespace ids and not pids?
and wanted to give a little feedback.  I think more refined approaches to figuring out whether the target JVM is in the same PID namespace make sense and could be an improvement, but it's still different from figuring out whether the target JVM has the same filesystem (specifically, I guess, the filesystem containing /tmp or java.io.tmpdir).  That seems like the crucial thing for deciding what socket file path to read, and whether /tmp is sufficient or /proc/<pid>/root/tmp is needed.  I can think of a couple different approaches to the filesystem issue:

1. There is some Linux kernel information that can be obtained about the jcmd process and the target JVM process to figure out unequivocally what their root filesystems are from the host's point of view, and whether they're the same.  (I don't know what this might be, though!) 2. jcmd treats it as a heuristic and attempts each way during the socket file read - first /proc/<pid>/root/tmp and then /tmp. 3. jcmd has some option or environment variable where the user can tell it the socket file path.

Do you agree that these are the types of choices available?

Thanks,
Jim




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