In your example, you want a single request to be processed by several providers and aggregate their responses. This can not be handled automatically by JBI : the aggregation part
must contains business logic and thus can not be done in a generic way.

Such situations are extensively described in the EIP book (http://www.enterpriseintegrationpatterns.com/eaipatterns.html). Note that the EIP patterns are geared towards asynchronous messaging, which is not always easy to map to an in-out mep,
because the patterns usually use in-only messages.

First, there are two possibilities :
* use publish / subscribe : each provider will register itself so that it will receive messages. the main problem is for the aggregator that has no simple way to know how many messages it will need to aggregate
 * use a recipient list

For the first case, ServiceMix offer two ways : internal publish / subscribe (in the xml config, you specify on the activation spec the endpoint you want to subscribe to) or WS-Notification (servicemix-wsn2005 service engine).

Using a recipient list may be easier, as a JBI endpoints may implement one or more interfaces. In this case, you could have a component which will ask jbi for endpoints implementing a known interface. It could send an in-out to each of these endpoints, select the best offer,
and discard the others.

JBI also defines interface base routing : when a consumer send an exchange, it can specify the interface name that should service the request. The NMR will select an endpoint that implements this interface. This can be customized using policies (see org.apache.servicemix.jbi.resolver.EndpointChooser) on an activation spec for example.

So to answer your question, there is a kind of mapping between logical and physical endpoints, but this is done by interfaces.

Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet

PS: you can take a look at
 http://www.enterpriseintegrationpatterns.com/RecipientList.html
 http://www.enterpriseintegrationpatterns.com/PublishSubscribeChannel.html
 http://www.enterpriseintegrationpatterns.com/Aggregator.html

Charles Souillard wrote:

What I mean by logical/physical endpoint is :

Let's take the example of a supermarket which deals with many food providers. Each time the supermarket wants to buy a product it choose the best price between all of these food providers. So I was thinking that we could have a logical endpoint which is "food provider" and dynamically we can bind this logical partner to a physical partner which could be "Danone" or "Labeyrie". What I understand from your previous email is that to do such a thing I will have to deploy two service assemblies (one for Danone and one for Labeyrie) and I will have to specify (WHEN ? HOW ?) the physical partner I want to deal with ?

About the storage, I was thinking that there was a map somewhere containing :
* the possible mapping for a logical endpoint : all food providers
* the current mapping for a logical endpoint : Danone for example

What I think now is that I will have to give my two providers two different names as they provides the same service (food provider) and I will have to select one between the two when calling the JMS binding Component for example...

If I am right on this, can you please explain me how I can configure dynamically the partner I want to call ? How can I move from one to one other dynamically ?

Thanks alot for your answers,
Regards,
Charles

Guillaume Nodet wrote:

What do you mean exactly by logical and physical ?

Let's take the example of jms : when deploy a wsdl with the appropriate binding information, the endpoints can be either consumer endpoint or provider endpoint, in the jbi meaning. A consumer endpoint will receive requests from the external world and route them in the NMR. A provider endpoint will receive requests from the NMR and route them to the external world.

For a provider endpoint, a jbi endpoint will be activated with a service name and an endpoint name retrieved from the wsdl. Binding informations are used to determine the queue / topic to use.

For a consumer endpoint, informations will be retrieved and a jms consumer will be created. Currently, the exchanges are routed to the jbi endpoint defined by the service name and endpoint name defined in the wsdl. Binding informations are used to determine the queue / topic to
listen to.

There is no global store of this informations : each binding component is responsible for mapping its own protocol specific endpoints to jbi endpoints. However all jbi endpoints can be accessed via the jbi api and the wsdl description can be retrieved for each jbi endpoint.

Guillaume

Charles Souillard wrote:

Guillaume,

thanks for your quick answer !

Have you got any any idea for my last 2 questions concerning :
* The way used to do the mapping logical/physical endpoint ?
* And where this map is stored ?

Regards,
Charles

Guillaume Nodet wrote:

The new BC will behave as you say.
So this is true for
 * servicemix-http
 * servicemix-jms
Note that these components are not finished yet, but i am currently working on it.

When you will deploy a service unit, it contains informations about the endpoints to create,
either consumer endpoint or provider endpoint.
Depending on the deployment model you will use (wsdl or xml), the information is extracted
and use to create endpoints.

Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet

Charles Souillard wrote:

Hi all,

I just want to be sure of something about BCs.
My understanding is that BCs are "generic". It means the JMS BC is deployed into SM only once and then if we want to configure different endpoints (each partner has its own queue/topic for example) we only have to deploy (JBI deploy) new service assemblies containing some artifacts...

Can you just confirm this understanding  or tell me if I am wrong...

This question comes to me by thinking about JCA which is a special case as each partner will have its own JCA connector I think, isn't it ?

I have another question concerning endpoints. I just want to know how the mapping is done between logical endpoints and physical endpoints. On the web site, I can read that UDDI is not yet supported so where are stored these informations ?

Thanks,
Regards,
Charles













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