George,
This is exactly the approach I've taken and I've been very happy with it.
Most of my screens are 100% HTML right out of an editor like FrontPage or
Visual Page. For the dynamic tables, etc I insert a special tag and use
HTML generating classes to insert the table.
Regards,
Bob
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On Monday, May 17, 1999 3:25 PM, George Svedloff
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> I quite agree - the proliferatoin of proprietary solutions is a little
> annoying.
>
> In my opinion, tempaltes offer a very clean solution. They have one
> problem - it is hard to deal with dynamic elements like talbes or lists
> when you use templates.
>
> The solution we are currently trying for this is the following:
>
> Use tempaltes, and when you need to use a dynamic element like table,
> insert some "placeholeder" into your HTML instead of the table that will
be
> substituted later. Then use something to dynamically generate the table
> (we currently use the W3C DOM library). After the table is generated,
> replace the "placeholeder" with the generated table.
>
> Any comments on this approach?
>
> George Svedloff
> Informix Software, Inc.
>
>
> At 04:22 PM 5/17/99 +0200, Carlos Amengual wrote:
> >Danny Ayers wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> I'm sure most programmers would agree that hardcoding and templates
each
> >> have their place. One thing that does irritate me though is how
systems
> >> for templates (not just for Java/HTML) keep appearing that require the
> >> user to learn proprietary techniques, usually scripting languages. All
> >> are offered as timesavers, 'no hardcoding required' being the selling
> >> point. Well, I wouldn't have to do any Java hardcoding if I'd bothered
> >> to learn Perl & PHP scripting...
> >
> >I agree with you. My approach has been to even avoid proprietary tags in
> >the HTML, and do all the programmatic manipulation from Java. This
> >leaves many unsolved problems, however, as in HTML you don't have an
> >universal way to locate by name individual tags, and relative addressing
> >workarounds -as I did- are easily broken. And if you want to insert, for
> >example, a table into the document, you must put the formatting of the
> >individual cells into the Java program.
> >
> >My solution to this was to use XML instead of HTML, and use style sheets
> >to do the final graphic rendering. The problem is that these style
> >sheets are still too obscure for the graphic designers to work with. I'd
> >like to hear other people's experience with the deployment of XML as an
> >HTML substitute.
> >
> >
> >Carlos
> >
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