Has anyone considered using Enhydra's XMLc compiler? Its an alternative to
out.println() method. It basically takes an HTML file, compiles it into a
java class and exposes the set/get methods of pre-specified tags. (It uses
DOM trees to do this). Then you can set any dynamic content on your page and
when done, call the this.toHTML() method to output the HTML code.
For more information, check out http://www.enhyra.org/. A very good XMLc
tutorial is at: http://www.enhydra.org/Doc.html#tutorials. XMLC is fast,
easy to learn and very cool since it completely frees the whole designer
from the programmer and vice-versa.
anukool.
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> Steven J. Owens
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 5:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: out.println(".....");? There's STILL no better way
>
>
> Jon,
>
> I wrote:
> > > Packages like ECS (and IMHO, JSP) suffer the same fundamental
> > > problems as embedding the HTML in println statements in the java
> > > code. JSP minimizes the issue by reversing the situation and
> > > emphasizing use of JavaBeans, but it's still fundamentally flawed
> > > - in my opinion, of course.
>
> You reply:
> > HELLO! You don't have to use ECS for ALL of your pages or ALL of your
> > content. ;-) I'm not quite sure why people keep on getting hung
> up on that.
>
> Perhaps because that's not the message you send when you post
> about ECS?
>
> I have no qualms at all about using something like ECS in areas
> where I'm generating HTML from scratch, or where ECS provides useful
> capabilities such as (as you suggest) translating database values into
> HTML entities. However, in pretty much every post in which you
> mention ECS, it's in the context of an alternative to embedding HTML
> in your source code. This, in my opinion, is not a good approach.
> Embedding HTML is awkward. Replacing it with embedded code to
> generate HTML doesn't address the issue.
>
> As I said, I haven't given ECS any detailed attention. It
> probably has some useful utilities. I would, for example, love to
> have something that lets me define styles (preferably in native HTML,
> maybe CSS) and simply say "This is a header of such and such a level"
> and have the package generate appropriate HTML. As an alternative to
> embedding HTML in code, slightly preferable. As an alternative to
> using some sort of templating system, not worth the trouble.
>
> > You can even use ECS in your JSP/WebMacro/FreeMarker/etc pages.
> >
> > My point is that any time you have any sort of Html output where you are
> > generating the Html tags yourself in your code, you should
> replace that with
> > ECS.
>
> A valid point. Has anybody used ECS in combination with a templating
> system? Any commentary on how well ECS plays with others?
>
> Steven J. Owens
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