> As I said, I haven't given ECS any detailed attention.
You made this "definitive" statement without even having looked at it in
detail:
"Packages like ECS (and IMHO, JSP) suffer the same fundamental
problems as embedding the HTML in println statements in the java code."
How can you say such things?
> However, in pretty much every post in which you
> mention ECS, it's in the context of an alternative to embedding HTML
> in your source code.
Sigh, that is what I was just saying in my last email as well. I just worded
it my statements slightly differently and put it in a slightly different
case. My last email was all about an alternative to embedding HTML in the
source code. You embed ECS instead.
> A valid point. Has anybody used ECS in combination with a templating
> system?
Let me guess, you have also never even looked at the way that Dash works.
<http://www.working-dogs.com/dash/>
It is a templating system where I have chosen to use ECS. You don't have to,
but that is the way that I have chosen to do things. It works quite well and
is not about embedding Html in source code. It is about staying within a
single environment for development.
I don't want to have to switch to a webbrowser to compile my pages for me
(ala JSP). I want to be able to have my code compile in my IDE so that I can
find my errors as I'm developing, not during testing phases.
To me, the FreeMarker, JSP, Webmacro systems are just like the C
preprocessors. Java got rid of those for a reason.
> Any commentary on how well ECS plays with others?
How would ECS not play with well with others? It is just 100% Pure Java
code. If you use it, it works. Simple as that.
Heck, I don't care what you do. I'm just a developer just like you except I
like to share with the rest of the world tools that make my life infinitely
more easier. You really cannot argue with that.
-jon
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