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From: David Mossakowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 2:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: why Application Servers
One big advantage you have left out (one I'm struggling with) is that
application
servers can do session-aware load balancing (yeah, I'm at it still :).
Unfortunately it is not an option for the project we're developing right
now.
I find it fascinating actually that the load balancing questions that I have
posted
to this list have met with so little interest. Either everyone 1) has an
application server, 2) has an application that will work fine on just one
servlet
engine for its user base, 3) has employed some session-aware
hardware/software
solution (DNS? Web server plugin?) or 4) has developed some other way to
manage
sessions outside of the servlet session context (database?).
If you're case 3 or 4 please contact me and we'll share experiences (well
actually
you'll share yours with me. BWUHAHAHAHA :).
David
Steve Buonincontri wrote:
> I think the question - "Why java applications servers?" is a good one
which is
> not getting answered up to the level of satisfaction is should. Why don't
the
> java application venders respond to this question?
>
> If a sales rep is an expert at giving a $80K price qoute, they should have
the
> skills to convince me that I need one. talk to me!!
>
> These are the things that I can immediately think of:
>
> 1) I need a EJB server (if I can get one for free or cheaper, I would use
> ServletExec and the EJB Server and I will be on my way.)
>
> 2) If it contains custom built java packages and services that everyone
will be
> re-building like (DB Connection pool code - what else?????) Then it
manages and
> provides commonly used web application services (mini servers). Then, the
> question is can I use things like (available servlet libraries) instead?
>
> 3) If it can automate things like HTTP tunneling for RMI (I still need to
see
> how useful this is etc.) What is the performance and ease of use etc.
>
> 4) If it contains gui tools to help you link EJB objecs to Oracle tables
(Wait -
> that cost an extra 10K at least, per developer!!). This implicit OR
mapping is
> great but not everyone support it and it costs extra anyway.
>
> My personal goals are to use J2EE until I am convinced that I need a
commercial
> java application server. If this is possible.
>
> - steve
>
>
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Instinet Corporation
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