Quoting Robb Shecter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I got into it because I needed a db solution for a bunch of servlets. I was > also nearly finished with a servlet framework that gives me model-view > separation via WebMacro, and authentication, etc. However, now I see that Zope > has all of this built-in, and I can concentrate on the task at hand. Or at > least, that's the idea. I'm just getting started, and in the process of > converting a partly-dynamic servlet-driven website to Zope for kicks. ( > http://www.rule-of-eight.com/ ) <bias>I wrote WebMacro</bias> It's interesting that you were using WebMacro and then switched to Zope. WebMacro offers only a part of what Zope does, and corresponds to the template system in Zope. I have always thought that it would be great if someone would work on a Zope-like project for Java servlets adding the rest of the Zope-style back end stuff. I think WebMacro would be an important part of such a project. The only downside to Zope in my mind is that it's written in Python and you have to implement mostly in Python (or at least it's faster and easier if you do that.. I know about JPython, etc.) Many of you are going to flame me immediately, but please take the time to remember this is a Java list before going on a rampage--I wouldn't post that on a Python list, I'd figure everyone there wanted to use Python. Anyway... To make this clearer to people unfamiliar with Zope and/or WebMacro: WM is a template system that can beused within a servlet to render a page view. It does this by analyzing the objects that you drop into the page, starting with a root level "context" object that is supplied to the template by the servlet. Zope is an object publishing engine which views every request as an invocation of some method on some object, and typically generates the HTML it sends back to you by using a template system that exposes the properties of that object to the page designer. It's not quite as simple as that on the Zope side, actually, but that idea is definately there. I would have built a full fledged Zope style system under WM but I am only one person :-) That's a challenge to anyone reading this who thinks that Zope style stuff is cool and would like to be able to do the same with servlets. Justin ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff SERVLET-INTEREST". Archives: http://archives.java.sun.com/archives/servlet-interest.html Resources: http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/external-resources.html LISTSERV Help: http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/user/user.html
