I hove nothing else to say but agree with both NIC and Chandrinois. There
is nothing wrong i asking, there is always something called the right
pplace and the right time. In the news gropu context thre is no quetion of
right time. But right place yes!
One can always argue that everything ir related to each other so any
question goes, but that's like saying everything you eat is food so mix all
and every kind of food together and eat .. you dont really need to bother
about eating chinese or italian or Continental. **smile* Sorry about the
metaphor.. but i am a food lover!*grin*
So you see when you want a particualr flavour of technology go the
appropriate place to find it. That's the way one builds knowledge base.
I think i have made my point here! And hope that Nic's , Chandrinois and my
post and the posts by many others protesting aginst indriscriminate usage
of this LIST will make a difference.
Have a nice day all of you!
Vinod
"K.V. Chandrinos"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
S.GR> cc:
Sent by: "A mailing Subject: Re: [List Policy]
was:[Icon in
list for discussion TextArea or Panel , Canvas etc]
about Sun
Microsystem's Java
Servlet API
Technology."
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A.SUN.COM>
05/10/00 05:47 PM
Please respond to "A
mailing list for
discussion about Sun
Microsystem's Java
Servlet API
Technology."
[answering to the list, to dissuade people from believing this line of
argumentaion is valid]
On Wed, 10 May 2000, QuantumMan wrote:
> Dear Nic,
> Its obvious to me you know little about Java.
I am not Nic, but judging Java knowledge from a post on list policy is
even more lame than face reading. Also, irrelevant to whether he is right
or wrong.
> These forums are for helping people out. Imagine what the guy you
> sounded off to thinks. Now he's afraid to ask questions.
That's not bad per se. Maybe it will cross his mind to go to a more
appropriate place so that he gets a faster answer from more appropriate
people. I wonder, if this and all other people of similar behaviour (e.g.
those posting repeatedly Javascript questions) would dare do so if they
were in front of a microphone in an auditorium with 3,000 people (see
bottom).
> You can't control what people post on forums such as this. If you
> don't like it, kindly just delete it and move on. I have 700 messages
> to wade through every few days looking for things I can learn from or
> help others with.
This is the major source of misunderstanding: THIS IS NOT A FORUM!!! It is
a mailing-list on a VERY specific topic, i.e. Java servlets. If we liked
wading we would have been flipping through comp.lang.java.programmer. My
newsreader just informed me it has 18,000 new messages. THAT is a forum
and one can go there and ask wonderful questions. In fact TextArea was
highly discussed there right now, just like two months ago when I had
checked again, always the question being if you can have multiple fonts in
it. Smileys would be a breeze of change. On the periphery of java
servlets, SOME questions on server-side processing and communication are
normal. Marginally, some slightly off-topic questions might be answered in
an attempt to 'enlighten' a novice list user. Other off-topic questions
are occasionally dealt with direct mailing. This is what Nic suggested, I
believe.
> I do it for your benefit too. I've been programming since the late
> 60's. There's always something to learn even from people who post
> weird questions. Let the Internet be. Readers do not appreciate
> belligerence, even mine.
>
I am also sorry for the flower-power era being over and all that,
particularly as I was busier doing other things than coding at the time.
However, apart from a small spot in Hyde Park, appropriately dubbed the
speaker's corner, I know of no other place where one can bubble on
irrelevant issues and the audience won't be annoyed.
> Seriously, servlets are Java classes. Text Areas are java classes. I use
> them in many of my applications. You can write a servlet to do a chat
> room. A text area would be a logical choice to include in the
> application. I am writing one for my family use and business use. There's
> NOTHING wrong with posting questions concerning these topics to this
> Servlet forum.
As said, it is not a forum, and of course there is nothing wrong with
asking questions on how to use java classes in SERVLETS. However, I bet
you use I/O a lot in your servlets. How about a barrage of questions and
answers on how to move a directory on Unix through Java? Or do you
really think that we have no other questions in (programming) life?
> I am positive that the thousands of readers and writers who particpate
> in this forum would agree with me, especially the Sun company.
I speak for myself (usually) and I say you could not be more wrong. You do
not need to speculate about Sun. Have a go with the statement of purpose
for this list. If you look carefully you may also find out that actually
THERE IS a servlet-forum (18 subscribers) which is different from
servlet-interest (3,173 subscribers).
Enjoy the list,
Kostas
> Have a good day sir.
>
> Charles Bell alias QuantumMan@quantumhyperspace
> http://www.quantumhyperspace.com
>
> Nic Ferrier wrote:
>
> > >chat software is a servlet
> >
> > Sure... but TextArea's are not related in any way.
> >
> > I have to say I am more cross with you than the poster.
> >
> > If *you* wish to reply to such off-topic posts *you* should do it off
> > list.
> >
> > Why you feel the need to give us all the benefit of your wisdom I
> > don't know.
> >
> > *I* mailed the individual in question and told him to take his query
> > off list - which is what should be done, because then the experts who
> > devote their time to this list will not leave for other places.
> >
> > Nic Ferrier
>
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