Guys lets stop bikering abt stuffs and drop topics which are off the list. I hate getting mails like these and it is not interesting at all. I'd rather read mails where I learn something. Please stop cluttering the mail box with this kind of bikering. MS and Java bicker that is bad enuff let us not start bickering and show a bit of professionalism here
Thanks.
Vijay
Ps. if this makes me a narrow minded person.. so be it.. Vijay Naidu
From: Milt Epstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "A mailing list for discussion about Sun Microsystem's Java Servlet API Technology." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Helping Sun against MS
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 11:55:00 -0500
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Mike Duffy wrote:
> I agree with David.
>
> I don't think something is "off-topic" if it affects the topic of
> the list-serve.
>
> Being narrow minded is bad. Being open minded is good!
The problem is that if you're too broad, basically anything can be
considered to "affect" the list topic.
"Hey, how do I turn on my computer? If I can't turn it on, I can't
run servlets!"
The point is the list has a specific topic, and it is most effective
and useful for the most people if we stay focused on that topic. I'm
all for a broad interpretation of the topic (e.g. personally I don't
mind certain HTML, JDBC, JavaScript things as sometimes they come up
in the context of servlets), but some things go too far -- and this is
one of them.
> --- "Godbey, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > Again. I honestly don't see a more appropriate place to discuss it.
> > I'm
> > talking about THIS (Helping Sun against MS)topic. Not random
> > off-topic
> > topics.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 10:43 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [off-topic]
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Thompson, Willard (GTICCC) wrote:
> >
> > > I agree with this considering the monumental decisions that will
> > > effect the technology community, this fall. Just put/include
> > > [off-topic] in the subject. Also, threads like this would fade
> > out
> > > anyway.
> >
> > I don't see why people think putting [Off-Topic] in the subject
> > line
> > makes it OK to post something off-topic. Do you really think that
> > announcing you're about to do something inappropriate makes it any
> > less inappropriate? (As if that couldn't be determined often from
> > the
> > subject anyway.)
> >
> > I also agree with Nic (and Pier, who is the list manager, so I
> > don't
> > see why people don't listen to what he says) that we've had enough
> > of
> > this topic. Even if you take a lenient policy and allow a little
> > bit
> > of information posting and discussion on it, we've already had
> > that,
> > and it's time to move on. Anyone who wants to discuss it further
> > should do so amongst themselves, and/or find and/or create a more
> > appropriate place to discuss it.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Godbey, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 10:12 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Please let's stop this now (was Re: R: Helping Sun
> > against
> > > MS)
> > >
> > >
> > > Don't agree with you on this Nic. I think its good to air this
> > > out. The servlet interest community certainly has its own
> > > perspective, and perhaps some good might come of this. Perhaps
> > time
> > > for Open-Source community to build a JVM for MS OSes?
> > >
> > > Moderating the list is fine. Keeping reign on off-topic stuff is
> > > fine. But sometimes discussion on a big issue such as this is
> > > appropriate. I say let it go for now. I would agree that folks
> > > should restrain the inflamatory statements such as "MS is a
> > horrible
> > > company". I want to hear from both sides.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dave
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Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Software/Systems Development Group
Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
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