On Wed, 29 May 2002, Sanjeev Verma wrote: > bravo!!!! > > I absolutely second the thought. I've seen acrimonious remarks in > the past "don't you know www.google.com" etc. I guess we need to > learn that being on a mailing list does not give any of us the right > to being rude.
Exactly right! So why do people post off-topic questions? Because in fact *they* are the ones being rude. Michael Weller was exactly right in his comments. You might think it's no big deal, people can just delete the extra messages. But as Michael pointed out, this list has thousands of subscribers (over 3100 according to http://archives.java.sun.com/archives/). Expecting that many people to take action when one person is being lazy and/or ignoring the rules (which, as Michael also points out, are there for a reason) is a perfect example of rudeness. And remember, it wasn't just one message involved here, so you need to multiply that by 30 or so. As to the people that respond publicly to off-topic questions, they might think they're being courteous in responding to someone's question, but the same logic applies. Think of the big picture. If you want to respond, consider sending it only to the original poster. BTW, here's another example of someone being rude: top-posting a three line response and not trimming any of the over 200 lines of previous messages. These things are really just basic netiquette. > -----Original Message----- > From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:46 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Copiar ResultSets > > > Let me make one thing clear!! > First of all. You're probably right (What, did you think I was going to > disagree? ;) > > I monitor this list with the sole intentions of helping others (and myself) > become more proficient/skilled developers. I also monitor every list that > jakarta has (I think) and JBoss. > > I am not an architect or even a guru, I simply want to help others, and in > the process I will learn something as well. > > When something pops up that I can answer, I answer as best as I can. When > something pops up of interest to me, I read and learn from those who are > more skilled than I. When something pops up that is of no interest to me, I > push delete. > > We have a responsibility to be informative and friendly to the newbies. > > When someone posts a problem/issue they are having, don't get pissed off and > go ranting and raving about how "stupid" they are. Simply lead them in the > right direction (IN A FRIENDLY MANNER). > > You can even have a little fun. > Sometimes I give an answer like: > > "Sure, I've written all about it on my homepage." > and then give them a link from google search page. > > To be honest, if you consider yourself to be skilled enough to talk about > servlets, but have a distaste talking about data access (whatever the > method) then you should probably unsubscribe. Ya, I know, its not what the > list is intended for the list, but come on......give a guy a break already. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: A mailing list for discussion about Sun Microsystem's Java Servlet > > API Technology. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Michael Weller > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:24 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Copiar ResultSets > > > > > > hi! > > i got 38 mails from servlet-interest today. 30 with the subject containing > > "resultset". i think it's just rude and impolite that in case you _know_ > > that your question is off-topic for servlet-interest to ask it anyway at > > servlet-interst (sorry, don't take it personal, but if you don't know it's > > off-topic, you're just dumb). i know that there are people on this list > > asking jdbc questions on servlet-, jdbc- AND j2ee-interest. > > you call yourself programmers or software engineers and you write servlets > > which is quite a difficult task. so i think everyone on this list > > should be > > clever enough to search google with some keywords describing > > his/her problem > > or to subscribe to a newsgroup/mailing list that is appropriate to his/her > > question. > > sorry for being rude, but this is not the first day that there are more > > off-topic questions than on-topic ones and i just don't get it. it's not > > only because i don't like answering database/swing/j2ee related questions > > (actually i'm a subscriber of all these lists so i think all these topics > > are interesting) it's just that this isn't the place to discuss > > these topics > > (btw, for jdbc questions you'll get better answers on jdbc-interest). i > > don't think it's a rule to ask servlet questions on servlet-interest and > > jdbc-related questions on jdbc-interest because somebody loves to > > make rules > > but because that rule makes sense. it's not only a matter of respect. > > can't we have a list-manager to delete all tht off-topic stuff??? 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