On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 05:51:19AM -0700, Mark E. Zawadzki wrote: > Depends on the resources we are talking about, and the # of requests. > - a servlet engine is another application to manage and administrate. More sys admin >work.
Yep, but the same is true about installing apache, mod_perl, etc. > - servlet apps are a bit harder to write and install properly vs. Perl CGI. More >inhouse dev work It's probably harder to install tomcat than Apache. > (if they support that kind of thing) as well as, again more sys admin work. > - for a low # of hits , the overhead of running the servlet engine is a greater load >on the system > than a few CGI hits. > - the Apache mod_perl library is very efficient. Sort of like a servlet engine for >Perl. Yep, mod_perl is equivalent to running a servlet engine. I believe that servlets are still faster since java is faster than perl for most operation, but other than that there's a lot of similarities. The main reason many more ISPs are running perl is that they're used to it. They started early on using perl for sys admin tasks, migrated to using it for CGI, and then started using it in mod_perl. It was an easy migration pathe. With Java, though, they' need to learn Java, learn to install Tomcat, and learn how to configure it (they already know how to configure Apache. It's a much higher migration path. The reason I know all of this, is cause I used to run an ISP. My current company, Zapatec provides a hosting/database solution that's based on Java, and we're migrating it from a propietary solution to one based on JSP and tag libraries. In the process, we always have to worry about handling multiple contexts, multiple users and making sure that performance is good. It's not trivial. Dror > > > --- Christer Nordvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not sure. I tried to argue my case, but they only kept saying that > > Apache with Perl module used lot less resources. I have only seen > > articles saying how much better JSP/servlets are compared to ASP, CGI > > and Perl so maybe someone else has any views on this? > > > > -Christer > > > > > I got that response too from a UK-based company I approached recently, > > but > > > is it true? > > > I thought, maybe wrongly, that one of the advantages of servlets over > > > other > > > technologies (CGI, etc.) was that it used *less* resources. Am I wrong > > in > > > thinking I read this somewhere? > > > > > > Regards, Billy. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Christer Nordvik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: 06 September 2002 12:16 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: UK-based web host > > > > > > > > > Try go get a nearby hosting company to host your PC. Much easier > > because > > > then you have full control over the application server and you can run > > > your own DB on the same machine. Not many offers of JSP/servlets as I > > > know of mainly because many hosting companies claim that it consumes > > too > > > many resources compared to other technologies. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > -Christer > > > > > > > Can anybody recommend a UK-based host offering > > > > JSP/servlets, preferably with tomcat? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gary. > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > Email me [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > K's Web http://www.kingstonian.net > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > > > > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > > > > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > __ > > > > _ > > > > To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in > > the > > > > body > > > > of the message "signoff SERVLET-INTEREST". > > > > > > > > Archives: > > http://archives.java.sun.com/archives/servlet-interest.html > > > > Resources: > > > http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/external-resources.html > > > > LISTSERV Help: http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/user/user.html > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > __ > > > _ > > > To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the > > > body > > > of the message "signoff SERVLET-INTEREST". > > > > > > Archives: http://archives.java.sun.com/archives/servlet-interest.html > > > Resources: > > http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/external-resources.html > > > LISTSERV Help: http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/user/user.html > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body > > of the message "signoff SERVLET-INTEREST". > > > > Archives: http://archives.java.sun.com/archives/servlet-interest.html > > Resources: http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/external-resources.html > > LISTSERV Help: http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/user/user.html > > > > > ===== > > Mark Zawadzki Performance Engineer/DBA/Programmer extraordinaire? 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