----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Patrick" <[email protected]> To: "Emmanuel Lepage" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 7:05:41 PM Subject: Re: [SFLphone] [Technical] Interface of SFLphone
Hello Mr. Lepage, I'm currently using GTK+ under MATE-Desktop (mate-desktop.org) which is like GNOME 2.0 featured but with new current integration... You may want to have a look on mate-desktop.org to have a better understanding. And I can say it is a very popular desktop as it is not displayed like a phone such as most other desktop no matter the OS and it could be annoying for many, like me. My concern about the current SFLphone is just to get bigger colored buttons to pick-up/hang-up and to dial number as we are used to . I would appreciate the interface will remain GTK+ compatible to be integrated with the desktop itself (window manager). As an example, Skype has released their 4.3 version for Linux few times ago and they have integrated the idea about the buttons and colors to have it much easier access... however Skype still remain a mess with Microsoft despicable behaves and policies I disagree totally with, especially under GNU Linux licence... and consequently, I ignore him and I'm using SFLphone as it is the best way at the moment to get my calls with features I like for that purpose... However, SFLphone remain not so easy regarding making call and I'm using instead LINphone to make calls at the moment until SFLphone come out with something offering the best of both SIP client I mentionned. (maybe dial pad with a SEND button below as I always searching how to send my call with SFLphone... maybe I'm funny, but I'm as I'm...) I would not want to get something looking like the following SIP client which is really unusable and ugly for my needs ==> ZOIPER Please don't do something like that... maybe is good into a phone... but completely irrelevant for a desktop... I'm sure you know what I means ! (too small, I can,t read anything, everything sticky all together... very difficult to use for me under a 1366*768 screen desktop resolution) My other wish for future version would be to get the possibilities to enter a dynamic path for recording file such as: /my_path/%Y/%m/%d/%Y-%m-%d_%H:%i%s .wav or .mp3 (I prefer .mp3 as it take less space) So the path above would store my recorded file to: /my_path/2014/11/27/2014-11-27_12:44:53 .wav or .mp3 You understand my point ? it is to be able to do a clear storage of the files for an easy access to it without to have to change the path manually every day or month which can easily be forgotten... Thanks to consider my wish for a future version... I have currently the latest version of SFLphone (1.4.1) and sometimes it crash without warning leaving my desktop and I have to restart it... I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty) 3.16.0-25 kernel at the moment. Yes, I would be interested to get any future version. I'm currently using the ppa from savoir-faire-linux with daily update of my system (not the pc for the phone purpose but the one for work purpose) my pc for phone purpose is updated when a new kernel is released. Thanks alot for your time and understanding. I appreciate it very much. merci ! Patrick Girouard Quebec city On 2014-11-27 12:28, Emmanuel Lepage wrote: Hello/Bonjour Patrick, Thanks for proposing to help us improve SFLphone usability. SFLphone have multiple clients ( http://sflphone.org/screenshots ). I guess your problem is for the Gnome client as the KDE and Android clients implement "smartphone like interface" for call actions (HandUp/PickUp/Record/Mute/Hold/Transfer). We are in the process of creating a major new version (2.0) and the Gnome client will have a major refactoring. In fact, it can almost be considered a re-write from scratch. Long, long time ago, the toolbar had labels under the icons, so the problem didn't exist. But, yes, since we use icon only, things are now very confusing, this is a known issue. The KDE client solved this problem by less or more copying the Android call action toolbar from Android 2.3 (Gingerbread). The android client use Radial menus based on available actions. The "new" Gnome client will probably use one of those solution, but we ar e not the re yet. When it come to the minimize to systray feature, we used to have one. The Gnome developers decided to revisit the whole systray concept and that made our implementation unusable. As of now, we are creating a GTK binding of our new "business logic" library called libringclient. This library will add new features such as auto-completion, better contact integration, advanced history filters, bookmarks/favourites numbers, macro and much more. While we welcome contributions and would love to have user usability input, right now is not really the best time. The current sflphone-client-gnome code wont be released again and the new GTK client is not usable yet. If you wish to fix the toolbar, we have build instructions available in out wiki: https://projects.savoirfairelinux.com/projects/sflphone/wiki As I said, the GTK client, as it stand now, wont be released again and is "frozen", so no new patches will be accepted. If you wish to contribute to the project, we will make available the sources for the new GTK client as soon as it become usable. For now, you can either use the Gnome client as is, temporarily switch to the KDE client, create a patch to add giant PickUp and HangUp buttons to the existing Gnome client or use the keyboard shortcuts (Escape and Enter). We understand none of these options are perfect, but we are at a turning point and a lot of things are changing. Do you want us to notify you when the new (experimental) GTK client become available? Best Regards/Cordialement, Emmanuel Lepage ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 7:23:24 PM Subject: [SFLphone] [Technical] Interface of SFLphone Patrick sent a message using the contact form at http://sflphone.org/contact . Hello I would like to contribute to the new features on a future new version of SFLphone as I have some concern about the Interface, especially for "pick-up", "hang-up" which should be more like we can see on a smartphone where the buttons are very easy/clear to use while on SFLphone on desktop it is not so easy/clear and this contribute to miss a call... My other concern is about the "close button" which should give an option to "go to tray" instead closing all the program itself then the "tray icon" when we click to get the main page should remember where the window were before to go to tray instead to go over my other window.. Finally, I don,t know where I can find the complete manual to set the configuration file properly as I ignore many terms used and I absolute don't know how to configure them either... so a manual desxcribing each term would be appreciated in order to set the program properly. Thank you ! Merci ! Patrick Girouard Quebec city _______________________________________________ SFLphone mailing list [email protected] http://lists.savoirfairelinux.net/mailman/listinfo/sflphone _______________________________________________ SFLphone mailing list [email protected] http://lists.savoirfairelinux.net/mailman/listinfo/sflphone
