Roland Mainz writes:
> > As an architectural matter, I don't buy that story.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Erm, I missed that line...
> ... from an architectural viewpoint I agree with you. But as I said
> /usr/bin/man needs more fixes and when I start working on fixing
> /usr/bin/man I'd like to make an "inception review" (or how it's really
> called) and then start doing a full revamp. It may need some time (and I
> am not sure how much time it needs since I have to find a normal job
> first and do that project in my free time) and I really would prefer
> that the people here start opening their hearts for the end-users and
> try to get some small improvements done _now_. It's architecturally not
> correct but it would help lots of the end-users. Remeber these cases are
> about _usuablity_ which is difficult to measure with a "foot rule" or
> other physical tools...

It's not an issue of "opening [our] hearts."  Please don't pretend as
though the folks reviewing your proposal are hostile to users.  That's
just not the case, and it makes it very difficult to comment
rationally on the proposal.

The concern I have is that the proposed solution may well be at odds
with a better solution.  In other words, suppose we do go with your
proposal to set MANPATH exactly once during shell start-up, based on
the PATH at that point.  If the user changes his PATH, MANPATH won't
get those changes.  But that's just life with environment variables.

If we later come along and enhance /usr/bin/man so that it searches
the ../bin parallels of PATH, but only when MANPATH is unset (in order
to honor compatibility), then the proposed "fix" from this project
will actually get in the way and will need to be undone -- somehow.

So, why produce a poor answer when a better one is possible?

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