wa alaykum asalaam ,
This story indicates an amazing nature of our beloved AMEERUL MOMINEEN (AS) and 
what makes him really a leader and a great chief of the believers, 

Taking care of orphans is duty and an obligation towards Allah swt, and our 
Imam beloved Imam (AS) out of modesty and humble always used to feel that he 
has done nothing which to serve Allah swt which is worth of His might, even 
though we testify that no one served Allah swt after the Prophet (S) , the way 
Imam Ali (AS) served, just recite the words of dua Kumail and you will 
understand his great nature, great modesty , and great humbleness in front of 
Allah swt.

As for the martyr every one knows it was not the fault of Imam Ali (AS), it was 
the fault of the enemies though the wife had kind of blame for Imam Ali (AS), 
which changed at the end, because she knew Imam Ali (AS) as a ruler like other 
ones , and not as a true  spiritual Godly Imam (AS), but at the end after 
abserving his behavior she realized the truth and embraced it.

As for the orphan , a leader appoints his officers  to take care of the 
responsibilities and duties towards the orphans, and we all know that not every 
officer of Imam Ali (AS) was perfect, how many of them when he got evidence 
about their corruption he  fired them, and mostly he will find out about them 
and their shortcoming by the incidence happened in this story, therefore we all 
know that he did the best, but if his officers will do shortcoming he will take 
it onto him self being a leader of the community.
The story indicates the challenges our beloved Imam Ali (AS) faced, the 
negligence of his officers, and his modesty and great nature.

Please forgive this least person for intruding and giving another angle , may 
Allahswt keep us amongst the loyal supporters of our beloved Imam (AS) and walk 
on their steps .
DUas
salaam alaykum


Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:06:09 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Shia Group] Answer to Controversial Mail
To: [email protected]

As Salam Alaikum .
This story may be taken in this way too .
By the divine knowledge of Imamat , Hazrat Ali Alaihissalaam came to know the 
distress of the women before it seriously started to hurt the lady and he took 
care of her , so he did not fail in any way which he can't due to the sanction 
of Aaya e tatheer on all Masoomeen .
 So the story may be true . 
zaheer

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From: Gadeer <[email protected]>
Subject: [Shia Group] Answer to Controversial Mail
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 8:13 PM



On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:52:06 +0530 SYED ELIA RIZVI wrote
>
THE STRANGERTired and exhausted with the water-skin onher back, she was gasping 
and going towards herhouse where innocent children, their eyes fixed atthe 
door, were eagerly waiting for the arrival oftheir mother. On her way, an 
unknown man approachedher. He took the water-skin from herand placed it on his 
back. The door opened andthe children saw their mother entering the housewith a 
stranger. He placed the water-skin on theground and said:"Well, it seems you 
don't have anyone to fetchwater for you; how come you are so
forlorn?""My husband was a soldier; Ali sent him tothe frontier where he
was killed. Now I am alonewith these little children."The stranger said no 
more. Bowing down hishead he went away. But the thought of the helplesswindow 
and orphans remained in his mind. Hecould hardly sleep in the night. Early in 
the morninghe picked up a basket; put
 some meat, flourand dates in it; went straight to her house andknocked at the 
door."Who are you?""I am the man who brought your water yesterday.Now I have 
brought some food for thechildren""May God bless you and judge between usand 
Ali"said:She opened the door. Entering the house he"I wish to do some good 
acts. Either let meknead the flour and bake the bread or allow me tolook after 
the children..""Very well, but I can do the job of kneadingand cooking better 
than
you. You take care of thechildren till I finish cooking"She went to knead the 
flour Immediately he
grilled some meat which he had brought and fedthe children saying to each child 
while puttingmorsel in his mouth:"My son, forgive Ali if he has failed in his 
dutytowards you"The flour got ready; she called: "Gentlemen!put fire in the 
oven:" He went and put fire in theoven. When flames rose up, he brought his 
facenear the fire and said, "Taste the heat of fire. It isthe punishment for 
those
 who fail in their dutytowards orphans and widows."By chance, a woman from the 
neighbouringhouse came in. Recognizing the stranger, shecried: "Woe, don't you 
recognize the man who ishelping you? He is Amirul-Muumineen (commanderof the 
faithfuls) Ali bin
Abi-Talib."The widow came forward and shamefacedlycried: "Curse and shame to 
me. I beg your pardon:""No, I beg your pardon for I failed in my dutytowards 
you."Presented by www.ziaraat.comANECDOTESOFPIOUS MENby:Mortaza Motahhari

I strongly disagree:


I strongly disagree with the above incidence due to the following reasons:
1. Not giving his due to the rightful owner is a sin which is an impurity, and 
according to 
Aaya -e- Tatheer (33:33) Ahlulbait (a.s.) have been kept away from all sorts of 
impurities.

2. The Holy Quran says “ We have manifested everything in the Holy Imam”. If 
everything has been manifested in the Holy Imam then Imam (a.s.) should also be 
having
 knowledge of all the soldiers in his army.

3. We believe that Imam (a.s.) decides about the affairs of the people on the 
night of Shabe Qadr. How can Imam (a.s.) decide about the affairs of people if 
He himself does not know about all the people in the world and how many of them 
are dead and how many alive.

4. Once while on their way to the battle field Maula Ali (a.s.) army came 
across a river. Maula Ali (a.s.) told one of his companions to go to the river 
bank and call a particular fish and enquire of him about the depth of the river 
and find our a point where the river is shallow enough for the army to pass. 
The companion went to the bank and called the fish by its name. One fish came 
on to the surface and told him that there are thousands of fish by the name you 
have called out, and told him to come back with the father’s name of the fish 
he wanted to talk with. The companion went back to Maula Ali (a.s.) and 
informed him about the
 situation, Maula Ali (a.s.) immediately told him not only the name of the 
father but also the name of 70 previous generations of the particular fish. Now 
dear readers is it possible that Maula Ali(a.s.) who is aware of 70 generations 
of an ordinary fish would be unaware of a particular soldier serving in his 
army.

5. Once during a battle Malik-e-Ashtar told Hazrat Ali (a.s.) that O, Ali 
(a.s.) had I killed one more person then our tally of the persons killed would 
have been equal. Maula Ali (a.s.) replied that O, Malik don’t compare yourself 
with me because you kill who so ever comes in front of you but I look down 70 
generations of the person in front of me and kill him if he does not have a 
momin in his lineage. Now is it possible that Maula Ali (a.s.) who could look 
down 70 generations of a person in a split of a second, is unaware of a Soldier 
who serves in his army.

6. Once upon a time a person came to Maula Ali (a.s.) and asked him
 a very difficult question to which Maula Ali (a.s.) gave an answer in a split 
of a second. The man asked Hazrat Ali (a.s.) O, Ali you gave me an answer very 
quickly and did not take effort to ponder over the question even a little bit. 
Hazrat Ali (a.s.) told him that the entire universe is always in front of my 
eyes as you have the 5 fingers of your hand always in front of you. Is it 
possible that Maula Ali (a.s.) who has the entire universe in front of him as 
the fingers of once hands is unaware of the soldier.

7. During his reign as a Caliph Maula Ali (a.s.) once told that today there is 
no one in my Caliphat who is hungry, who is without clothes and who does not 
have a shelter on his head. 

8. Hazrat Ali (a.s.) once proclaimed from the pulpit that O people ask me 
whatever you want before you loose me (Dawae “Saluni”). These two incidences 
show that Maula Ali (a.s.) had complete and sound knowledge about everything in 
the universe.
 

Now in the light of the above Aayats and incidences, I would request the 
readers to ponder that is it possible that Maula Ali (a.s.) who has been 
purified by Allah (s.w.t.), who has a knowledge of all the things present in 
the universe, who decides about the affairs of the people during Shabe Qadr, 
who is aware of 70 previous generations of an ordinary fish, who scans 
through70 generations of the person in front of him in split of a second, who 
is ever aware of the mysteries of the universe; who proclaims that none in his 
Caliphat is hungry and calls the people to ask him what ever they wish is 
unaware of a particular soldier in his army and fails to provide help to his 
family.

This and many such incidences are planted by the enemies of Imam Ali (a.s.) to 
(God forbid) defame him. Unfortunately many such incidences are quoted by Shia 
writers without thinking. I therefore request one and all to avoid quoting 
incidences which go against the
 Ismat of Ahlulbait (a.s.).

Khuda Haafiz.
Gadeer






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