On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 13:29 -0600, Brian W. Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Not to be picky, but I don't yet see much that counts as progress > > > towards graduation - not that that is a bad thing, at this point. > > > > I'd have to disagree. > > > > > I see a _huge_ amount of traffic, clearly a lot of development work. But > > > that does not count on iota towards graduation, in itself. > > > > With my apache hat on, I disagree. It counts, but not in a big way. > > Running a productive project is important. > > > > > * Are folks collaborating according to the Apache way? > > > > >From what I can see, it looks pretty good so far. I spoke with all of > > the Google devs who are working on Shindig before it even entered the > > Incubator, and I'm reasonably sure that they get it and understand the > > importance of doing things the Apache way. > > > > > * Has the strong bias towards Google amongst committers been reduced? > > > > This is something that needs work. > > > > > * Has all IP been checked and cleared? > > > > > > * Has the project made a suitable incubator based release? (for IP > > > vetting purposes, not necessarily for public consumption) > > > > As far as I can tell, the IP has been completely vetted and contributed. > > > > > These are a few of the issues that occur to me immediately that would > > > help towards graduation, with the second likely being the most > > > significant, and hardest to resolve. > > > > It always is on projects that spring out of a single company :-) > > > > that said, if you have any specific concerns with examples, I think it > > would be useful to discuss them here. > > No, I don't have any particular concerns. I am amazed at the amount of > traffic on this list. There's no way I can keep up with it. > > I didn't intend (even if I managed to) to belittle the development work > that is going on. You said it better, this does contribute towards a > move towards graduation, but not in a big way. > > All I wanted to say is that the committer balance issue is, to my mind, > the number one issue that Shindig is going to have to resolve during the > course of its incubation. IP clearance, technical merit, adherance to > ASF practices, etc, all seem to be in place (at least to some degree) > already. > > Clearer?
Crystal clear, and I completely agree! -Fitz
