Hi Santiago,

2008/5/20, Santiago Gala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The page you posted starts with: NOTE: By downloading the software
>  from this page, you acknowledge that the software available from here
>  is licensed under the GPL. We advise that you review the GPL before
>  downloading.
>
>  So I guess it is impossible to be used in something to be released
>  under the Apache License.

I was aware about mysql license, I just gave this pointer for information.
Not sure if Shindig could only use this artifact for testing, ie
without release test artifacts, but definitely Shindig *can't* release
any artifacts with GPL artifacts.

>  I love hsqldb, and have used it some time ago. What I loved most of it
>  is that the DB format we used was essentially an ASCII log of SQL
>  commands, so that it was amazing for debugging. This formats gets
>  collapsed to a set of INSERTs on close/open, so it is not as bad as it
>  looks.
>
>  I wonder if derby has something similar, I always missed this for
>  debugging DB related issues when we moved off hsqldb.

FYI here are some DB informations:
http://db.apache.org/ddlutils/databases/hsqldb.html
http://db.apache.org/ddlutils/databases/derby.html

Cheers,

Vincent

>  Regards
>
> Santiago
>
>
>  On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Vincent Siveton
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > 2008/5/19, David Primmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  >> I have some updated data people, social graph, activities, that I'd
>  >>  like to add to shindig but I'm wondering the best way to store it and
>  >>  work with it. Anyone have a suggestion? I'd like to replace the
>  >>  state-basicfriendlist.xml file with something that's easier to edit
>  >>  and work with that could be checked into shindig. Some suggestions
>  >>  from the summit were http://www.hsqldb.org/,
>  >>  http://db.apache.org/derby/ and http://www.sqlite.org/, the latter
>  >>  being c-based.
>  >>
>  >>  I'm primarily interested in supporting the java rest api so hsqldb
>  >>  sounds best but I'm sure the other implementations would like to use
>  >>  the same source data and may want something with more runtime
>  >>  availability. Maybe we could store the seed data in multiple formats
>  >>  for seeding a few different small database engines but we should start
>  >>  with one.
>  >>
>  >>  I'd like to avoid non-embeded stuff like MySql.
>  >
>  > FYI MySql provides an embedded DB using the mysql connector MXJ:
>  > http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/connector/mxj
>  >
>  > Cheers,
>  >
>  > Vincent
>  >
>  >>
>  >>  There's been a request not to have the database engine included in the
>  >>  shindig jar. We'd have to design the maven rules to generate alternate
>  >>  binaries. Here's the maven rule to add hsqldb:
>  >>
>  >>  <dependency>
>  >>  <groupId>hsqldb</groupId>
>  >>  <artifactId>hsqldb</artifactId>
>  >>  <version>1.8.0.7</version>
>  >>  <scope>test</scope>
>  >>  </dependency>
>  >>
>  >>  davep
>  >>
>  >
>

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