On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Vincent Siveton
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Santiago,
>
> 2008/5/20, Santiago Gala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> The page you posted starts with: NOTE: By downloading the software
>>  from this page, you acknowledge that the software available from here
>>  is licensed under the GPL. We advise that you review the GPL before
>>  downloading.
>>
>>  So I guess it is impossible to be used in something to be released
>>  under the Apache License.
>
> I was aware about mysql license, I just gave this pointer for information.
> Not sure if Shindig could only use this artifact for testing, ie
> without release test artifacts, but definitely Shindig *can't* release
> any artifacts with GPL artifacts.

In this case you should have warned about it. Licensing issues are
important for a lot of people, specially when we are doing a reference
implementation of a standard specification, and it is supposed to be
used in plenty of different contexts. Dropping a link without further
comment cannot be considered information, but rather adding confusion
to the mix.

Regards
Santiago

>
>>  I love hsqldb, and have used it some time ago. What I loved most of it
>>  is that the DB format we used was essentially an ASCII log of SQL
>>  commands, so that it was amazing for debugging. This formats gets
>>  collapsed to a set of INSERTs on close/open, so it is not as bad as it
>>  looks.
>>
>>  I wonder if derby has something similar, I always missed this for
>>  debugging DB related issues when we moved off hsqldb.
>
> FYI here are some DB informations:
> http://db.apache.org/ddlutils/databases/hsqldb.html
> http://db.apache.org/ddlutils/databases/derby.html

PS) Not sure what is the purpose of those links either.

>
> Cheers,
>
> Vincent
>
>>  Regards
>>
>> Santiago
>>
>>
>>  On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Vincent Siveton
>>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  > 2008/5/19, David Primmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>  >> I have some updated data people, social graph, activities, that I'd
>>  >>  like to add to shindig but I'm wondering the best way to store it and
>>  >>  work with it. Anyone have a suggestion? I'd like to replace the
>>  >>  state-basicfriendlist.xml file with something that's easier to edit
>>  >>  and work with that could be checked into shindig. Some suggestions
>>  >>  from the summit were http://www.hsqldb.org/,
>>  >>  http://db.apache.org/derby/ and http://www.sqlite.org/, the latter
>>  >>  being c-based.
>>  >>
>>  >>  I'm primarily interested in supporting the java rest api so hsqldb
>>  >>  sounds best but I'm sure the other implementations would like to use
>>  >>  the same source data and may want something with more runtime
>>  >>  availability. Maybe we could store the seed data in multiple formats
>>  >>  for seeding a few different small database engines but we should start
>>  >>  with one.
>>  >>
>>  >>  I'd like to avoid non-embeded stuff like MySql.
>>  >
>>  > FYI MySql provides an embedded DB using the mysql connector MXJ:
>>  > http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/connector/mxj
>>  >
>>  > Cheers,
>>  >
>>  > Vincent
>>  >
>>  >>
>>  >>  There's been a request not to have the database engine included in the
>>  >>  shindig jar. We'd have to design the maven rules to generate alternate
>>  >>  binaries. Here's the maven rule to add hsqldb:
>>  >>
>>  >>  <dependency>
>>  >>  <groupId>hsqldb</groupId>
>>  >>  <artifactId>hsqldb</artifactId>
>>  >>  <version>1.8.0.7</version>
>>  >>  <scope>test</scope>
>>  >>  </dependency>
>>  >>
>>  >>  davep
>>  >>
>>  >
>>
>

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