There is a pretty easy solution: Make them committers. I wrote the
reason for that on my reply to Chris. Quintessence: Everyone committing
to an official "release" at Apache, which includes the web sites, must
have a CLA on file.

        Ciao
                Henning


On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 03:51 -0700, Kevin Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>         On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 02:08 -0700, Kevin Brown wrote:
>         > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:46 AM, Chris Chabot
>         <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>         > wrote:
>         >         What I'm still very hopeful to see is a Wiki system
>         (any
>         >         flavor will do) for Shindig.
>         >
>         >         The lack of documentation and possibilities for
>         people to
>         >         contribute too- has really held our adoptation back
>         a bit, and
>         >         caused many duplicate threads on the same subjects
>         to happen.
>         >
>         >         On the other hand i remember infrastructure@ saying
>         that a
>         >         zone should not be used for anything important?
>         >
>         > Yeah, I'd be cautious about anything that needs to persist
>         data on the
>         > zone.
>         
>         
>         That is not entirely correct. :-) Your zone will not suddenly
>         vanish or
>         being wiped. However, any substantial service for a project
>         (e.g. a doc
>         site, downloads, you name it) should at some point be migrated
>         off a
>         zone and onto infrastructure proper. Zones are
>         project-maintained and
>         running stuff off a zone means that there is e.g. no mirroring
>         of
>         content available. Also, I'm not sure if Zones are backed up
>         at all.
>         
>         A zone is intended to run all the developer/committer related
>         support
>         stuff like e.g. continuous build. It would be fine BTW to run
>         a sample
>         container on the zone if you slap a .htaccess file on top of
>         it (run
>         Apache in front of Tomcat) or request container authorization
>         (with
>         straight Tomcat) and allow only committers/developers access
>         to the
>         container.
>         
>         The problem is scalability inside the Apache infrastructure,
>         not running
>         services. The zone machines are shared machines that don't
>         serve for a
>         single project.
>         
>         
>         > A hosted wiki would probably work. google sites might work
>         ok for
>         > this, though I still prefer something like MediaWiki in
>         general.
>         
>         
>         Don't go there. We have two working Wiki infrastructures
>         (Confluence and
>         MoinMoin) and we have our very own JSPWiki in incubation if
>         you feel
>         like setting up a Wiki on the Zone (which is fine, as long as
>         only
>         committers have write access to it). I can understand infra to
>         object to
>         yet another wiki-flavor-of-the-day.
> 
> It's 'committer access only' that's an issue for this. We're already
> using confluence, and the inability for non-committers to edit
> documentation is a blocker.
>  
> 
>         
>         
>                Ciao
>                        Henning
>         
>         
> 

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