I would be a very wary of relying on VM implementation specifics like
XXXRweriter.class.hashCode(). You certainly don't want the same class
generating different coes on different instances in a cluster where the
cache is shared. Also dont use serialVersionUID as that is only intended for
serialization compatability. Reading the class as an InputStream from the
ClassLoader and then computing a hash might work but seems more trouble than
its worth.

In general I think a a manually maintained version no. might actually be
your best bet.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:29 PM, John Hjelmstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Back to this sub-thread...
> Adding a getVersion() parameter seems error prone and a little burdensome.
> In theory the version needs to change when any modification in potential
> output for a given input is made, ie. not just optimization. That's not
> always the easiest thing to analyze and get right. Meanwhile, invalidating
> a
> bunch of cache keys (by registering a new rewriter impl) isn't especially
> costly: if the cache is useful at all, it will be hit often, ie. refreshed
> quickly.
>
> --John
>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Louis Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The versioning should be more explicit than that I think. Maybe add a
> > getVersion function to the rewriter interface so they can manage their
> own
> > changes
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:39 PM, John Hjelmstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Interesting suggestion. I can include the rewriter class names and
> their
> > > class hash codes or some other such versioning construct.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Ben Laurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:17 PM, John Hjelmstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > Excellent, agreed. CLs forthcoming.
> > > >
> > > > Can you include the version numbers of the rewriters in the cache
> key?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> #2 is the only really viable option. If we have to put caching
> logic
> > > in
> > > > 10
> > > > >> different places we'll screw it up 9 different times :).
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:11 PM, John Hjelmstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > As discussed on a few threads and tracked in JIRA issue (
> > > > >> > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-579), we need to
> > move
> > > > >> > rewriting
> > > > >> > logic out of AbstractHttpCache. Yet we should maintain rewritten
> > > > content
> > > > >> > caching capability. The question is where to put it.
> > > > >> > I see two options, at a high level:
> > > > >> > 1. In code that calls
> > > > >> ContentRewriterRegistry.rewrite(HttpResponse|Gadget).
> > > > >> > Eg. MakeRequestHandler, ProxyHandler, ViewContentFetcher,
> > > > GadgetServer,
> > > > >> and
> > > > >> > the near-future Renderer and Preloader. This allows
> finer-grained
> > > > control
> > > > >> > over caching behavior in context, at the cost of distributing
> > > caching
> > > > >> logic
> > > > >> > in various places.
> > > > >> > 2. In ContentRewriterRegistry.rewrite(HttpResponse|Gadget)
> itself,
> > > if
> > > > so
> > > > >> > chosen. Caching logic can be consolidated in
> > > > >> > CachingContentRewriterRegistry,
> > > > >> > for instance (which will no longer subclass
> > > > CachingWebRetrievalFactory),
> > > > >> > and
> > > > >> > be considered an optimization to rewriting.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I'm inclined to go #2. Rewriters themselves can be augmented
> with
> > > > caching
> > > > >> > hints if necessary, and be assumed deterministic for a given
> cache
> > > key
> > > > in
> > > > >> > the meantime. Consolidating rewriting logic makes it easier to
> > share
> > > > the
> > > > >> > cache itself.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Still, I might be missing situations in which additional context
> > > > inherent
> > > > >> > to
> > > > >> > the calling context is needed to make a caching decision.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > --John
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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