Perhaps I'm missing something, but note that in order to share a cache the
data I'm storing are Strings, not HttpResponses (or Gadgets).
As to hash method, MD5 it is.

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Louis Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > A little reading would indicate the MD5 is about 40% faster to compute
> than
> > SHA1 so I would suggest we use it. It would also make sense to stuff the
> > MD5
> > of the cached content into an HTTP header on the cached version of the
> > original content so we can avoid re-computing it.
>
>
> Since HTTP response is immutable, we can do this at construction time in
> pretty much the same way that it's done for GadgetSpec (i.e. adding a
> getChecksum method).
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Louis Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I would be a very wary of relying on VM implementation specifics like
> > > XXXRweriter.class.hashCode(). You certainly don't want the same class
> > > generating different coes on different instances in a cluster where the
> > > cache is shared. Also dont use serialVersionUID as that is only
> intended
> > for
> > > serialization compatability. Reading the class as an InputStream from
> the
> > > ClassLoader and then computing a hash might work but seems more trouble
> > than
> > > its worth.
> > >
> > > In general I think a a manually maintained version no. might actually
> be
> > > your best bet.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:29 PM, John Hjelmstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Back to this sub-thread...
> > >> Adding a getVersion() parameter seems error prone and a little
> > burdensome.
> > >> In theory the version needs to change when any modification in
> potential
> > >> output for a given input is made, ie. not just optimization. That's
> not
> > >> always the easiest thing to analyze and get right. Meanwhile,
> > invalidating
> > >> a
> > >> bunch of cache keys (by registering a new rewriter impl) isn't
> > especially
> > >> costly: if the cache is useful at all, it will be hit often, ie.
> > refreshed
> > >> quickly.
> > >>
> > >> --John
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Louis Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > The versioning should be more explicit than that I think. Maybe add
> a
> > >> > getVersion function to the rewriter interface so they can manage
> their
> > >> own
> > >> > changes
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:39 PM, John Hjelmstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Interesting suggestion. I can include the rewriter class names and
> > >> their
> > >> > > class hash codes or some other such versioning construct.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Ben Laurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:17 PM, John Hjelmstad <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > > > Excellent, agreed. CLs forthcoming.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Can you include the version numbers of the rewriters in the
> cache
> > >> key?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >> #2 is the only really viable option. If we have to put
> caching
> > >> logic
> > >> > > in
> > >> > > > 10
> > >> > > > >> different places we'll screw it up 9 different times :).
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:11 PM, John Hjelmstad <
> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> > As discussed on a few threads and tracked in JIRA issue (
> > >> > > > >> > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-579), we need
> > to
> > >> > move
> > >> > > > >> > rewriting
> > >> > > > >> > logic out of AbstractHttpCache. Yet we should maintain
> > >> rewritten
> > >> > > > content
> > >> > > > >> > caching capability. The question is where to put it.
> > >> > > > >> > I see two options, at a high level:
> > >> > > > >> > 1. In code that calls
> > >> > > > >> ContentRewriterRegistry.rewrite(HttpResponse|Gadget).
> > >> > > > >> > Eg. MakeRequestHandler, ProxyHandler, ViewContentFetcher,
> > >> > > > GadgetServer,
> > >> > > > >> and
> > >> > > > >> > the near-future Renderer and Preloader. This allows
> > >> finer-grained
> > >> > > > control
> > >> > > > >> > over caching behavior in context, at the cost of
> distributing
> > >> > > caching
> > >> > > > >> logic
> > >> > > > >> > in various places.
> > >> > > > >> > 2. In ContentRewriterRegistry.rewrite(HttpResponse|Gadget)
> > >> itself,
> > >> > > if
> > >> > > > so
> > >> > > > >> > chosen. Caching logic can be consolidated in
> > >> > > > >> > CachingContentRewriterRegistry,
> > >> > > > >> > for instance (which will no longer subclass
> > >> > > > CachingWebRetrievalFactory),
> > >> > > > >> > and
> > >> > > > >> > be considered an optimization to rewriting.
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > I'm inclined to go #2. Rewriters themselves can be
> augmented
> > >> with
> > >> > > > caching
> > >> > > > >> > hints if necessary, and be assumed deterministic for a
> given
> > >> cache
> > >> > > key
> > >> > > > in
> > >> > > > >> > the meantime. Consolidating rewriting logic makes it easier
> > to
> > >> > share
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > > >> > cache itself.
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > Still, I might be missing situations in which additional
> > >> context
> > >> > > > inherent
> > >> > > > >> > to
> > >> > > > >> > the calling context is needed to make a caching decision.
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > --John
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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