Ok so...

Proposing
Branch shindig to
branches/0.8.1-x  with a version of 0.8.1-1-SNAPSHOT
increment trunk version to 0.9-1-SNAPSHOT indicating 0.9-1 will be the
next release

The first tag from 0.8.1-x
will be 0.8.1-1
at which point the branch version will got to 0.8.1-2-SNAPSHOT

and at sometime trunk will branch again to
branches/0.9-x  with a version of 0.9-1-SNAPSHOT

Did I get that right :)

Ian

On 20 Nov 2008, at 13:09, Dan Peterson wrote:

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Chris Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

ps we could also go for an iteration release number in the format of

shindig-0.8.1-22

(where 22 would be the 22nd release that supports the 0.8.1 spec
completely), but then we have no way to communicate things like 'this
version changes the internal API'


Yes, this is similar to what Kevin and I agreed to earlier on this thread.

I think it is quite likely we'll have at least one release for each spec version in the future, and we can use a.b.FOO, where a.b is the spec version
and FOO is effectively a counter of the "stable build"

This would mean we'd be working on a release for Shindig 0.8.

So I think we either should break the correlation between the spec and
shindig release numbers (after all it implements the specs, but isn't the
spec right? Just like firefox 3 implements http 1.1 :and there's no
correlation between the 2)), or we should change shindig's development model
and think about how to sync spec versions with shindig internals /
experiments.


I don't want to go deep on this analogy since we're converging, but
certainly Firefox does more than simply implement the HTTP spec.

-Dan


On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Chris Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

plus trying to keep the versions synced can also lead to lots of confusion

If we implement 0.8.1 completely (shindig version 0.8 ?), then add some previews of 0.9 functionality (proxied content) is the shindig version 0.8
or 0.9 or 0.8.1?

And if we fix some bug fixes would the next version be 0.8.2 ? And would
that make people believe there is a 0.8.2 version of the spec? :)

I guess going for a double release number *could* work, ie something like
shindig-1.0.0-0.8.1, but i'm not sure if that's very 'pretty'

To be honest, I would be happy to go for a 1.0.0, and depend on the docs + site (which we REALLY should address some day, things like: change logs,
docs, blog, info, etc) to communicate which version supports what


On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Dan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

I'll chime in and mention that several people that I've talked to
have
been
confused about this. I think it would be great if the Shindig release
version were to match the latest spec version that it fully
implements.


The architectural version can match (opensocial-0.x ==
shindig-0.[yyyy.zzzz]), but Shindig will never match the opensocial
version
exactly. If I change a major interface in the code, we're still
implementing
the same opensocial version but we can not continue using the same
version
number.


This sounds reasonable to me.

-Dan

On Nov 20, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Dan Peterson wrote:

Hey folks,

I am really excited that we're getting to an OpenSocial v0.8 (well,
0.8.1)
compliant release. I think we'll learn a lot about making Shindig a
great
piece of infrastructure through these releases.

To Ian's question, I think we should be careful about the version
number:
it
seems confusing if we have OpenSocial at v0.8, but Shindig at v1.0. Shindig's mission/scope is to implement the OpenSocial spec, so it's
awkward
to have different numbering systems for the releases of the
implementation.
I certainly realize that versions are just arbitrary numbers, but
sending
the message that Shindig is at 1.0 is over-promising with regards to potentially breaking changes and stability, given the state of the
"underlying" spec.

My thought was that this would be a release of Shindig v0.8.

-Dan

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Ian Boston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I don't expect this to be controversial, but I should as just for
process.

Proposing
Branch shindig to
branches/1.0.x  with a version of 1-SNAPSHOT
increment trunk version to 1.1-SNAPSHOT indicating 1.1 will be the
next
release.

The version numbers are more for Java than for Php, but I guess
there
might
be a version number in the php code ?

I have done a dry run of the maven release plugin and there are no
issues,
so it should be a simple one command process. (it also branches the
php
code
because we left a pom in the base directory)

Any comments ?
Happy with the version numbers ?

Ian



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