I have just committed a fix to the assembly that generates complete source zips. There still needs to be a fix to the tarball generation. but that should give

tarball of the source
tarball of the php application ready for install
all java artifacts ready to go into a maven repo.

Ian

I will be offline until this evening. (Sydney time)

On 23 Nov 2008, at 20:35, Chris Chabot wrote:

Ok, step one seems to be completed, lets go plan for our step 2 ... going to
actual release tarbals :)

I've got 1 or 2 minor fixes left to do, and I'll make sure that the release branch is kept up to date with trunk for the fixes ... But we also need someone to do the same for the java / javascript side of things (I've seen a
fair amount of commits landing on trunk which seemed to be bug fixes,
without counterparts on the release branch).

After we make sure that's properly synced up, lets plan a data for pushing out the tar.gz's and lets get brainstorming about a release announcement to
post on the shindig site together with the (unofficial / incubating)
release.



On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 2:29 AM, Ian Boston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ok the release artifacts are now at
http://people.apache.org/~ieb/shindigmaven/<http://people.apache.org/%7Eieb/shindigmaven/ >

This is a maven 2 repo for the branch with snapshots.

I have sym linked the php release artifacts into the root directory, but
the java version is from the repo.

We could build binary and source distros for the java version without too
much effort.

None of this is signed.

Ian

On 20 Nov 2008, at 16:38, Dan Peterson wrote:

Sounds good to me.
So now the next step is to do the branch and produce the tarball so we all
can bang on it?

-Dan

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Ian Boston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ok so...

Proposing
Branch shindig to
branches/0.8.1-x  with a version of 0.8.1-1-SNAPSHOT
increment trunk version to 0.9-1-SNAPSHOT indicating 0.9-1 will be the
next release

The first tag from 0.8.1-x
will be 0.8.1-1
at which point the branch version will got to 0.8.1-2-SNAPSHOT

and at sometime trunk will branch again to
branches/0.9-x  with a version of 0.9-1-SNAPSHOT

Did I get that right :)

Ian


On 20 Nov 2008, at 13:09, Dan Peterson wrote:

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Chris Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:

ps we could also go for an iteration release number in the format of


shindig-0.8.1-22

(where 22 would be the 22nd release that supports the 0.8.1 spec
completely), but then we have no way to communicate things like 'this
version changes the internal API'



Yes, this is similar to what Kevin and I agreed to earlier on this
thread.

I think it is quite likely we'll have at least one release for each spec version in the future, and we can use a.b.FOO, where a.b is the spec
version
and FOO is effectively a counter of the "stable build"

This would mean we'd be working on a release for Shindig 0.8.

So I think we either should break the correlation between the spec and

shindig release numbers (after all it implements the specs, but isn't
the
spec right? Just like firefox 3 implements http 1.1 :and there's no correlation between the 2)), or we should change shindig's development
model
and think about how to sync spec versions with shindig internals /
experiments.


I don't want to go deep on this analogy since we're converging, but
certainly Firefox does more than simply implement the HTTP spec.

-Dan


On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Chris Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:

plus trying to keep the versions synced can also lead to lots of

confusion

If we implement 0.8.1 completely (shindig version 0.8 ?), then add
some
previews of 0.9 functionality (proxied content) is the shindig version
0.8
or 0.9 or 0.8.1?

And if we fix some bug fixes would the next version be 0.8.2 ? And
would
that make people believe there is a 0.8.2 version of the spec? :)

I guess going for a double release number *could* work, ie something
like
shindig-1.0.0-0.8.1, but i'm not sure if that's very 'pretty'

To be honest, I would be happy to go for a 1.0.0, and depend on the
docs
+
site (which we REALLY should address some day, things like: change
logs,
docs, blog, info, etc) to communicate which version supports what


On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Dan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:


On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >


wrote:


I'll chime in and mention that several people that I've talked to


have


been

confused about this. I think it would be great if the Shindig
release
version were to match the latest spec version that it fully

implements.




The architectural version can match (opensocial-0.x ==
shindig-0.[yyyy.zzzz]), but Shindig will never match the opensocial

version

exactly. If I change a major interface in the code, we're still
implementing
the same opensocial version but we can not continue using the same

version

number.


This sounds reasonable to me.

-Dan

On Nov 20, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Dan Peterson wrote:



Hey folks,


I am really excited that we're getting to an OpenSocial v0.8
(well,

0.8.1)


compliant release. I think we'll learn a lot about making Shindig a


great


piece of infrastructure through these releases.


To Ian's question, I think we should be careful about the version

number:


it

seems confusing if we have OpenSocial at v0.8, but Shindig at
v1.0.
Shindig's mission/scope is to implement the OpenSocial spec, so
it's
awkward
to have different numbering systems for the releases of the
implementation.
I certainly realize that versions are just arbitrary numbers, but

sending


the message that Shindig is at 1.0 is over-promising with regards
to

potentially breaking changes and stability, given the state of the
"underlying" spec.

My thought was that this would be a release of Shindig v0.8.

-Dan

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Ian Boston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

I don't expect this to be controversial, but I should as just for

process.

Proposing
Branch shindig to
branches/1.0.x  with a version of 1-SNAPSHOT
increment trunk version to 1.1-SNAPSHOT indicating 1.1 will be
the

next


release.


The version numbers are more for Java than for Php, but I guess

there


might

be a version number in the php code ?

I have done a dry run of the maven release plugin and there are
no
issues,
so it should be a simple one command process. (it also branches
the

php


code

because we left a pom in the base directory)

Any comments ?
Happy with the version numbers ?

Ian



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