On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 04:39:49PM -0600, John Wise wrote:
> _why you've talked about the problems you've had in the past with OSX.
> Is there some page that has a synopsis of these or could you re
> mention your main problems here in this thread or a new one?

Ohh, well yes, I'm glad you asked.

In general, the biggest problem is that I don't use OS X, so I'm not
saavy to what the OS X experience should be like.  I could really
use a couple OS X users who can outline every way that Shoes can
improve for OS X.

This is a daunting task, though, since Shoes doesn't work very well
on OS X to begin with and since there is so much C.  (However, I am
dying to get some Cocoa in there!)  I am trying to get up to speed
and improve things, but it's a struggle and things would go faster
if I could get some help from a real Apple dev.

Now, for specific troubles:

 * The Info.plist launches the Shoes app.  Due to a very strange
   focusing problem, Shoes usually won't run from the command line.
   <http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/shoes/ticket/73>

 * There are repainting issues.
   <http://lethain.com/entry/2008/jan/10/odors-shoes-curious-os-x-104/>

 * A custom "ask" dialog must be assembled.
   <http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/shoes/ticket/19>

 * Launching .shy files doesn't work.

 * Multiple window support is broken.

 * Cairo gradients won't scale properly.
   (Something I might need to raise with the Cairo team.)

These are just the matters which have been reported.  I hear
allusion on blog spots to other more severe problems which have yet
to be described.  I'm also not sure the .dmg is the best way to
install, I've heard some complaints about that.

Not being an OS X user (and not being a very assertive or
opinionated person,) I need some help making an informed decision,
you know?

_why

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