What's this have to do with making golf clubs?
----- Original Message -----
From: "connie mack rea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Was lamkin; now who gets the last word


> We seem to be at the equinox of misunderstanding, the length of the lines
queued
> unevenly.  Unaccountably, I have entered into a competition of
incompetence
> where ears are pricked up and brains turned off.
>
> I presume you checked "snipe" before labeling me.  However, if I were that
> person, I would have taken aim at you, Al, and Brian from a place of
concealment
> and remained hidden.  I signed my mail, and am who I say I am.
>
> Now "lout" is more interesting, and, had you not let it pop into your head
> unattended, you would have known that the word means "stupid" and
"awkward."
> You think me stupid?  You've had the opportunity to stamp me, but
declined.  You
> think me awkward?  Obviously, I can play at least scratch grammar.
>
> "Boor" rounds off the meaning of lout.  A boor has clumsy manners and
lacks
> refinement.  Are these the points you wish to lather me with?  Probably
not.
>
> Next, there are "haughty, vain, self-centered, discourteous."  However, I
would
> ask that you note precise instances.  On second thought, I give you all of
> those, but ask you to remember how my first mail prompted these.
>
> I.e., I said three things: [1] Readers might appreciate the writer's
giving his
> mail a run through the spellchecker; [2] readers might appreciate the
writer's
> giving his mail a second look just to catch the long hairs and warts that
exist
> in everyone's first draft; and [3] writers should always be aware that
they are
> his chosen words, and they alone tell the reader who he is. Therefore, the
> reader, in a sense, "reads" the writer through words.
>
> The writer is known by his words and nothing else.  And the reader cannot
but do
> otherwise.  That is why no one ever writes as poorly as he can, and the
> presumption is that he has written the best that is in him.
>
> From these three bland points you advance and infer that I am vain,
> self-proclaimed, discourteous, haughty, self-centered, puerile, trite,
snipish,
> and loutish.  Do those fill the plate?
>
> You may be excellent in forming committees of allies, but you fail as
chairman.
> You can proclaim that spelling, grammar, punctuation, and usage don't
count, but
> your proclaiming doesn't make it so, nor should it make it so, nor will it
ever
> make it so.
>
> By saying that standard language doesn't count but those who use it do
count,
> you would give non-standard writing and writers an aesthetic glow or some
> undefined derivational charm that none of the rest of us possess.
>
> When language is snub nose or hook nose, never does it have even the grace
of
> regularity and uniformness.  Language, like ideas, ought to be neat,
divisible,
> and fundamental like a carpenter's square.
>
> Or like Ernie Els swing.
>
>
> tflan wrote:
>
> > My Dear Fellow;
> >
> > I guess you missed my point. So here it is again. You are a snipe. In my
> > experience, snipes have mostly been haughty, vain, self-centered,
> > discourteous louts. Seems to me you fit the picture in this particular
> > thread.
> >
> > Clear?
> >
> > Am I interested in a discussion about whether to capitalize a word that
> > appears immediately after a semi-colon? Are you serious? I'm more
interested
> > in not seeing your missives in print.
> >
> > Am I ready to let it go? Sure thing. Puerile discussions with
> > self-proclaimed experts, like this one, become increasingly trite as
time
> > passes.
> >
> > TFlan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "connie mack rea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: It's Lamkin, not Lampkin
> >
> > > TFlan, my Good Man--
> > >
> > > The adverse condition resulting from criticizing language is that you
must
> > use
> > > language in your criticism.  And therein lies the danger.
> > >
> > > Let's just take your first two lines.
> > >
> > > E.g., you could profit from knowing how to use the semicolon.  Sorry
to
> > inform
> > > you that your semicolon in the first line is egregiously wrong.  Less
> > egregious,
> > > but still a blunder, is not knowing that the question mark goes
outside
> > the
> > > quotation marks.
> > >
> > > I doubt that you're interested in the argument for using or not using
a
> > cap on
> > > "how."
> > >
> > > Do you really want me to show other failures?
> > >
> > > You, too, should just let it go.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It seems to me that one thing we don't need here is a self-appointed
> > English
> > > > usage cop. Being a snipe is a less than honorable profession.
> > > >
> > > > TFlan
>
>

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