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At 12:15 AM 8/9/2002, you wrote:
>Dave:
>Besides the blatant self promotion, I passed along some of the info from 
>the ruling because I thought some Shoptalkers would be interested in how 
>this process works. Your earlier response to my original post was based on 
>the limited info I passed along to you and the group...not blaming anyone 
>and I know your response reflect that.
>It is interesting to note that the manufacturer of the gripping material 
>told me that they had sent a glove and grip in for approveal and , 
>individually, the glove was approved and the grip was approved, but 
>together were against the rules. I sent my glove/grip in to the USGA 
>before I was aware of the ruling.
>Not sure why the USGA  wouldn't agree with their earlier appraisal of 
>this.  I don't have a copy of the approval of the glove from the 
>manufacturer yet so I'll have to wait for this.
>
>>John,
>>I was one of the guys who responded to your original inquiry, and said that
>>it would probably be legal. (I've appended my entire note to this, in case
>you want to check what I said.
>
>you did respond and that's why we're forever pals...
>
>>Here's my take on what they told you...
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:11 PM
>>
>>
>>>  The ruling that applied for the glove was:
>>>
>>>  14-3 Artifical Devices an dUnusual Equipment
>>>  The player shall not use any artificial device or unusual equipment:
>>>  C Which might assist him in gripping the club, except that:
>>>  i. plain gloves may be worn.
>>>  They continued:
>>>    The glove is not considered to be "plain" because the material on
>>>  the palm and gripping surface is not similarly smooth.
>>>  Added material on the gripping surface of the hand, other than for
>>>  wear resistance purposes, is prohibited.
>>>  A "plain glove" shall not have features such as;
>>>  ...material on the glove which adheres to material on the grip.
>>
>>You didn't spell out what the design was. If it actually adheres, it's
>>probably illegal as they say. If it mechanically interlocks (e.g.- there
>>were mating protuberances on the glove and the grip), then it is definitely
>>illegal. But if it merely improves the friction with the grip, they need to
>>go back a re-read their own decision on the subject, decision 14-3/8, which
>>says in part, "Applying tape to a golf glove to prevent the glove from
>>slipping or reduce wear is not a breach of Rule 14-3."
>
>It is "mating protuberances" but they interlock and release. It uses micro 
>replication technology. It's these super teeny tiny protuberances. The 
>USGA reply said "Velcro like". It's not velcro-like. This stuff releases, 
>Velcro doesn't. It's super, duper (techie term) tiny. I have a feeling 
>that a close-up pic of tape will show that it is not "smooth", probably 
>looks a lot like this material.
>
>
>>
>>Hope this makes some sense.
>>DaveT
>
>
>
>>
>>=========== Earlier posting of June 4, 2002 ==============
>>
>>The rule that would apply would be 14-3: Artificial Devices and Unusual
>>Equipment. The relevant portion is:
>>     "... the player shall not use any artificial device or unusual
>>equipment:
>>a...
>>b...
>>c. Which might assist him in gripping the club, except that:
>>     (i) plain gloves may be worn.
>>     (ii) resin, powder and drying or moisturazing agents may be used.
>>     (iii) tape or gauze may be applied to the grip (provided such
>>application does not render the grip non-conforming under Rule 4-1c), and
>>     (iv) a towel or handkerchief may be wrapped around the grip."
>>
>>In addition, there is a relevant decision in the 1996 Decisions book.
>>
>>"14-3/8  Adhesive Tape
>>Q. May a player bind certain fingers together with adhesive ape or apply
>>such tape to a golf glove.
>>A. ... Applying tape to a golf glove to prevent the glove from slipping or
>>reduce wear is not a breach of Rule 14-3."
>>
>>I've omitted stuff that I thought was irrelevant.
>>
>>The quoted passages don't address your problem directly, but their spirit --
>>plus a look at the variety of conforming golf gloves -- suggests you're OK.
>>BUT... I suspect if the grip and glove surfaces are a mechanical "lock" and
>>not just friction, you'd be in violation of 14-3.
>>
>>Of course, it isn't clear that being in violation of the rules of golf is a
>>bad thing any more. Might even increase your market.
>>
>>:-(  Blechhh!  :-(
>>
>>Good luck!
>>DaveT
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 8:45 AM
>>Subject: ShopTalk: Rules of Golf Grips/Gloves
>>
>>
>>>  Hi Gang:
>>>  I'm in the process of developing a new grip and golf glove line that
>>>  out of a new material. The glove will have material (that is the same
>>>  as the grip material) sewn in to the palm of the glove and offers
>>>  dramatically improved grip over leather glove/rubber grip
>>>  combinations.
>>>  The grip is conforming  but I looked at the USGA site and don't see
>>>  anything regarding golf gloves (or grips, actually). Is it "anything
>>>  goes" with glove/glove material?
>>>  John
>>>  shoptalk/clubmaker online
>>>
>>>


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