I said I ignore the USGA, I didn't say or imply that I ignore the rules of
golf. I follow the rules probably better than most duffers. My son in law is
a PGA club pro and I honor all the rules and do not play any selective
rules. Never have and never will. Up here in the winter, no one is allowed
to post for handicap, so I would say it doesn't matter a lot if your glove
has some material added to keep from losing the club.

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To quote you,
"Have suspected the USGA is off base so much that I dropped my membership
years ago and totally ignore them!!"
I hope you do not plan to play in any USGA sanctioned events. The rules of
golf are the rules.  Do you play selective rules,
ie. I do not like to play the ball as it lies, so I always move it, or the
oput of bounds rule is unfair so I play it like a lateral hazard. You might
not like the rules, but if you ignore them you are cheating. Golf is a game
that relies on the integrity of the players.


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John,
Up here in the Seattle area, the glove would be the answer to our normal
rounds played in dismal weather. I personally would not give a rat's ass
whether it conformed or not if it meant I didn't have to carry about six
gloves to complete a round!! Tuesday rain caught us on the 14th hole and I
used a glove a hole from there to the finish.

Have suspected the USGA is off base so much that I dropped my membership
years ago and totally ignore them!!

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Subject: ShopTalk: USGA Rules Against Clubmaker Online!

For immediate release:

In what must rank up there with yesterday's COR ruling the USGA has
ruled that my new glove does not conform with the Rules of Golf. The
new grip (made of the same material) was conforming so all is not
lost.
The ruling that applied for the glove was:

14-3 Artifical Devices an dUnusual Equipment
The player shall not use any artificial device or unusual equipment:
C Which might assist him in gripping the club, except that:
i. plain gloves may be worn.
They continued:
  The glove is not considered to be "plain" because the material on
the palm and gripping surface is not similarly smooth.
Added material on the gripping surface of the hand, other than for
wear resistance purposes, is prohibited.
A "plain glove" shall not have features such as;
...material on the glove which adheres to material on the grip.

Watch for an outpouring of public sentiment, newspaper articles, chat
room indignation, and much more.

When asked for comment, company owner John Muir replied, "It's simply
not fair. I've ordered a ton of these from my supplier in China and
now I'll have to cancel the order and start from scratch. I assumed
from comments made on my discussion group, Shoptalk, that the gloves
would be approved. I may sue the bastards"

I may simply market the glove as a "foul weather" glove (and identify
it as non conforming) as the glove/grip combination in the rain
outperforms anything currently on the market and a guy playing in a
downpour simply would like to finish the round without throwing his
club with each swing.

Besides the pathetic self promotion, I thought you'd be interested in
a follow up on this as several of you sent me messages on this when I
posted it earlier.

The new grip will be available in about two weeks...I'll keep you posted.

John
shoptalk
<http://clubmaker-online.com>



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