Tedd

It relates to a 5" clamp length with a grip. Your numbers below look good.
You might try a little stiffer wood but long irons look very close
considering the + or - 4 Cycle range that they should be within. Short Irons
might be just a little stiff.

llhack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Childers, Tedd A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:03 AM
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: History of Frequency


> Lloyd,
>
> Thanks for the reminder about the revised data, which you had mentioned to
> me previously via e-mail (estimated driver frequency only I believe).
> However, I have not built any clubs to test based on the revised numbers.
> Is the 1.35 CPM/club slope through the entire set (woods and irons) and
> based on the driver frequency (at what clamp length, and gripped or
> ungripped)?  Also, what length are the numbers based on (1.35 CPM/0.5"
> length change I assume). If so, the frequency of each club would be the
> following:
>
> Club Length Fit Chip Frequency Current Freq
>
> Driver 45" 263 CPM 245
> 3-wood 43" 268.4 245
> 5-wood 42" 273.8 245
>
>
> 3-iron 39" 281.9 284
> 4-iron 38.5" 283.3 286
> 5-iron 38" 284.6 288
> 6-iron 37.5" 286 290
> 7-iron 37" 287.3 292
> 8-iron 36.5" 288.65 294
> 9-iron 36" 290 296
> PW 35.75" 290.7 298
>
> As you can see, the irons are pretty close, but the woods are off a bit
from
> your recommendation.  The current numbers are Precision/Brunswick
equivalent
> frequencies (i.e. gripped at 4.5", or ungripped at 3.25" on my GS meter).
> I'm killing the current driver, so I won't mess with it, but I would be
> willing to try the recommended frequency in a different driver head and in
> the fairway woods.  If I do, I'll report back with the results.
>
> Tedd
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lloyd Hackman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 5:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency
>
>
> Tedd
>
> I thought I had sent you a revised fitting for you based on what I found
> concerning the toe up toe down deflection affect on the fit chip readings.
I
> posted that to Dave yesterday but find it must not have gone through,
> probably because I had put a explanation of the results of comparing the
> FitChip and Shaft-Lab tests on Dave that resulted in the above findings as
> an enclosure. I will copy that explanation into a new e-mail to Dave so
you
> can see the reason for the change. The system now recommends your driver
at
> 263 CPM and a slope of 1.35 CPM per club.
>
> llhack
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Childers, Tedd A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 8:21 AM
> Subject: RE: ShopTalk: History of Frequency
>
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > As you know, I also tried the FitChip and was not satisfied with the
> fitting
> > recommendations.  To Lloyd's credit, he really went out of his way to
try
> > and make the system work for me, but it simply did not produce results
> that
> > were superior to my current clubs in either length or accuracy.  I will
> > admit that according to FitChip, I have a swing with a VERY late to
> > non-existent release, which resulted in a recommendation of the stiffest
> > shaft possible.  I was able to hit the shafts that FitChip and Lloyd
> > recommended better than I expected, but they felt very harsh and
resulted
> in
> > a loss of distance, with no gain in accuracy.  Just my experience for
what
> > its worth.
> >
> > Tedd
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Tutelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 6:00 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Lloyd Hackman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 11:07 AM
> >
> >
> > Lloyd>>>But the same frequency in either shaft will match the players
> swing
> > frequency.
> >
> > Bernie>>  Are you referring to frequency analysis as a fitting tool with
> > your timing chip? Only if you believe you can do that satisfactorily.
> There
> > are many who don't believe you can. The evidence that I've seen on this
> > forum suggests to me that it's still a crap shoot.
> >
> > Lloyd>  *** Those who believe I cann't have not tried it and I have many
> > more that have tried it and know it can. You ought to try it.
> >
> > There is at least one counterexample. Me.
> >
> > I tried it. You fitted me yourself. The recommendation was wrong to the
> > point of ridiculous.
> >
> > I have correspondence from a few others with similar experience, but if
I
> > posted that it would be hearsay. Suffice it to say your categorical
> > statement above is wrong.
> >
> > DaveT
> >
> >
> >
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