Hi;
 
Thanks for the info. I remember the TT Dynamic pain in the you know what. The OEM info is however, news to me, and interesting as can be. I suppose its obvious but to an old fart like me some things aren't as obvious as once they were. Mostly what a lot of us consider re;OEM is head design and/or in the case of Callaway's earlier offerings, how fast we could dump the RCH 60, 90, and 99 shafts. If there's one thing that's fascinated me over the years - or at least since the advent of graphite shafts and television, is how many hacks and chops simply must have what the guys on TV are using. Its made a lot of us a lot of money. The first really big deal was, IMO, the UST/Olazabel Master's win. We couldn't get enough of those ugly yellow/purple dogs. A $29.00 shaft installed for $65.00 plus grip! I loved it ;-)
 
Thanks again.
 
TFlan
 
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Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 11:08 AM
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: firm shaft flex, no more ZA

TFlan:

It is very often that the shaft makers will be asked to �modify� an existing shaft that they make to satisfy whatever requirements that the customer would request.  Many times, an OEM shaft starts out simply with a conversation that starts like, �say we like that ProLite but could you tweak the butt stiffness a few cycles and while you�re at it, drop that torque a half-degree�.   And so off they go.  Same thing has happened in the past with the good old common Dynamic steel pattern from TT.  I bet lots of clubmakers were puzzled when they used to reshaft the Dynamic in the Wilson Staff irons from 10-15 yrs ago and found that the tip to first step distance for any number in the set did not match up to what the �normal� Dynamic steel iron shaft would yield under TT�s standard trimming.  Same thing � Wilson had gone to TT way back then and requested a different set up for the shafts that they wanted for the Staffs that they called Dynamic.  Step length was the same but not the tip section length.  So regardless of what the shaft company�s �familiar� shaft you see in an OEM club might say on the label/decal, you do not know if it is the same one that you can buy for your assembly/reshafting unless you take it apart and COMPLETELY analyze it from butt to tip. 

 

TOM WISHON

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of tflan
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 10:41 AM
To: ShopTalk
Subject: ShopTalk: firm shaft flex, no more ZA

 

Hi;

 

Back to golf. I didn't mean to start a passionate discussion over ZA. Sorry 'bout that.

 

I played a round with a guy who was using a 10.5� Cobra 427 cc driver with a Grafalloy "R" flex shaft. I assume it was a 3.5. I couldn't tell because it was an OEM special. Markings on the club sole indicated the volume and the COR - .828 I think. The guy was a high handicapper but with the driver he was a single digit. He absolutely killed it. So, I grabbed a demo from the proshop and hit a few shots with it. The shaft seemed to be pretty stiff and "boardy." But then, I had had a couple of libations prior to the test so I quit. I went back the next day and borrowed the demo again. I hit about 30 balls with it. I'll swear that shaft is considerably stiffer than the "S" flex shafts I have installed in my GBB, 975J, Ping TiSi, Aermet, LSC, and a few others. Later, I borrowed another club from one of the guys at the course and hit several more balls with the same result. That "R" flex Grafalloy is as stiff as a board.I didn't have the opportunity to check out the frequency on my ClubScout. So, I'm curious - have any of you guys hit this club/shaft combo? I've installed a lot of Grafalloy 3.5 "R"s and have played them as well. I've never come across one as stiff as the 3 I recently tried.

 

TFlan

 

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