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Since I have both David T And Lloyd on my "DO NOT READ" list,
because I get over a 150 E-Mail posts per day I really don't need
to listen to their drivel any more then I need another A -- Hole,
I never got that those two "Know It All's" were up to until
I started reading other peoples posts. Think of Torque
this way, if it did not mean a thing why would "EVERY" Manufacturer mark
"EVERY" shaft that they build with the Torque. I
have taken golfers that always sliced or hooked the ball and by just
changing the torque had them hitting the ball straight. In
fact I once owned a freq meter and thought nothing of torque, like
some idiots we all know. Well one time I had a
customer come into my shop, which was before my Parkinson's Disease, and
ask me if I could make him another driver "JUST" like the other one I
built for him but with a different head, more like a
BB. I said sure, well the new head was a bit
smaller across the face area then his older TM Look A Like so there was
less drag. and proceeded to purchase the head and another shaft just
like the one he had, same flex and torque. Well after a good
weekend's work out with his new drive Monday Morning he was back in my
shop screaming about want a piece of junk I had sold/made
him. I asked him what was wrong and he told me
that he was hooking or hitting left on every ball that he had hit and
that he had taken his old driver along with him and "EVERY TIME" he hit
the old driver he hit it straight. After checking everything
out Flex & Freq the only difference was the head face
size. Plus Torque, that was my very first
intro into the world of torques & Swing Weight.
. Looking the head weights and shaft weights up
& making sure that they both were the the same it was then I found
out that the toe stuck out .750" more on the TM then the BB giving
the TM the higher SW. I changed the
shaft to a higher torque, from a 2.8 to a 4.5 and then all was right
with the world.
I would like to add that the next time you need some very good
advise go to someone who knows what the hell their talking about
and in my book it certainly wouldn't be either one of those self
satisfying ego idiots. Why do you think I have
them "BOTH" blocked. Again, think why would
every shaft manufacturer in the whole world go to the expense of the
testing, marking and advertising just so some egotistical idiot could
tell you "IT DOESN"T MATTER". You must also remember that these
two self proclaimed guru's have an agenda, Lloyd to try and sell you
newbees his swing testing program & David just so he has some one to
talk with or some newbee to listen to his drivel. If you
think that David is a "REAL" club maker / fitter ask him just how many
clubs he builds per year and just how much equipment he has in his
"SHOP" (lawn & garden) tool shed. I know
what that answer will be "I BUILD CLUBS ONLY FOR MYSELF AND A FEW, VERY
FEW IS MY THINKING, Friends". From what I've
been reading here on Shoptalk and on Spinetalk there is not a clubmaker
out there that has "LESS" tools then David.
RK
Manufacturer's of World Class Golf Club Repair
Equipment
ps; Lloyd / David no need for you to answer because I've
got you both "BLOCKED" so I wouldn't get it any
ways.
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Date: Wednesday,
March 19, 2003 12:29:04 PM
Subject: Re:
ShopTalk: How to pick torque?
Dave and Mike,
> Bernie,
> Should I, or
do you want to?
> Oh, what the hell...
Saw Lloyd's post and
thought, "I'll bet Dave will answer that one." But how
can I
resist... :-)
Mike, to my knowledge, shaft torque hasn't been
shown to play any part in
what happens to ball flight in the .0004
second duration of impact. My dad's
research at Spalding showed head
CG location is the determining
factor...that's why there's the same
amount of bulge on both sides of the
club face. Might add that if the
bulge on a wood face is designed properly,
the head will redirect any
of the "geared" ball flight (caused by an
off-center hit) so it ends
up on the target line.
I've tried a lot of shafts with torque
from 1.8 to 5.0. (RK got me
interested in fitting for torque a couple
of years ago.) The really low
torque shafts feel like telephone poles
to my swing and I have very little
feel of head location or
control...spray shots all over the place. Low
torque definitely is
not better for the average swinger, IMO. The higher
torque shafts
make impacts with the ball feel mushy, I try to hit the ball
harder
and end up with the same wild results. For my 90 mph swing, 3.5
to
4.0 feels just right. My first really long driver shaft...about 5
years ago,
I think... was a Mars CVP-150 S with a torque of 3.8. At
48" club length, I
haven't tried a shaft that felt any better to me,
nor was more accurate at
any length than that
one.
Bernie
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