Guys:

I'll chime in on this hybrid wood/iron subject because I have done a lot
of work in this area.  There are hybrid wood/irons that are really
fairway woods in their performance and then there are a few that are
really long irons in their performance.  Depends on the headweight and
the shaft bore that the hybrid heads are made with.  For example, back
when I did the Snake Eyes Quick Strikes for GS, these were made with
fairway wood headsweights and to accept a 335 wood shaft, so their
assembly lengths were the same as a fairway wood.  That meant the QS
clubs were really an alternative for a fairway wood in terms of the
distance and not to be a real replacement for a long iron in terms of
achieving that distance in the set.  

Then you have hybrids that are like the Taylor Made Rescue - made to a
long iron length with an iron shaft.  These types of hybrids will be a
real replacement for a long iron in terms of distance.  But because they
use an iron shaft, 98% of golfers will never hit them as high as they
will a hybrid that is made with a wood shaft.  This is because wood
shafts at wood lengths deflect and unload in their bending over twice as
much as do iron shafts of the same letter flex.  That greater bending
happens because the 335 shaft is longer and smaller in tip section
diameter than the iron shaft.  So a hybrid that is made to be a real
long iron replacement using long iron shafts and lengths will always be
considered to be a little harder to hit high than will a hybrid that is
made for fairway wood lengths with a wood shaft.  

But then the two have to be considered totally different animals because
they are very different.  In the end, when you pick a hybrid clubhead,
you have to look at the headweight and the shaft bore diameter to know
what is what - and you have to select on the basis of what you want in
your set make up.  If you want a real replacement for a long iron so you
take up the gap in distance between the highest loft fairway wood and
the longest iron, then you have to look for a true iron type hybrid.  

TOM W

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Tutelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: All woods - new thread

At 08:38 PM 6/26/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In a message dated 6/26/03 12:51:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>These "new" clubs are easier to hit because the lengths are shorter
than 
>>woods yet with a "wood" shaped hollow head they give the "wood
results" 
>>favored by people who are not successful hitting long irons.. Be sure
to 
>>purchase heads that use shafts made for irons
>
>Hi Arnie,
>Why be sure to purchase these type of heads that use iron shafts as 
>opposed to wood shafts?
>David

I was wondering the same thing. I have several hybrid utility clubs,
some 
with wood shafts and some with iron shafts. The ones with wood shafts
hit 
the ball higher for the same loft. Is that bad? Not necessarily. In
fact, I 
have found I hit it better and more reliably that way. YMMV, but I don't

see your "rule" as a universal truth.

Cheers!
DaveT



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